Albert Pike’s 3 World Wars Letter Hoax ( JQWB Elimination WWW lll )

Albert Pike’s 3 World Wars Letter Hoax

Keelan Balderson | April 6, 2011 | Satanic Panic, WideShut Webcast | 220 Comments

If you are a frequent consumer of alternative media and history you’ve no doubt at some point came across the infamous 3 World Wars letter allegedly sent by Confederate military officer Albert Pike to Italian Freemason and revolutionary Giuseppe Mazzini. This alleged letter is quoted ad-nauseam on websites, in forums, by conspiracy researchers like David Icke, in books aiming to expose Freemasonry, and by those with an interest in geopolitics and conspiracy theories. It is commonly used as evidence to support the idea that major wars are simply a tool of a secret elite society called the Illuminati, who are out to destroy Christianity and usher in a Satanic New World Order. Not all proponents of the letter’s authenticity are Christian or adherents of the Satanic New World Order theory, but the common thread that unifies them is the notion that wars and events on the geopolitical chessboard are long planned out agendas, and not spontaneous. This article is not here to debunk that notion, in fact there is ample evidence to support the contrived and deceitful nature of warfare, but in the quest for truth every piece of evidence should be held up to scrutiny.

Below is the often cited Three World Wars text…

The First World War must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism. The divergences caused by the “agentur” (agents) of the Illuminati between the British and Germanic Empires will be used to foment this war. At the end of the war, Communism will be built and used in order to destroy the other governments and in order to weaken the religions.

The Second World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences between the Fascists and the political Zionists. This war must be brought about so that Nazism is destroyed and that the political Zionism be strong enough to institute a sovereign state of Israel in Palestine. During the Second World War, International Communism must become strong enough in order to balance Christendom, which would be then restrained and held in check until the time when we would need it for the final social cataclysm.

The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the “agentur” of the “Illuminati” between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World. The war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other.

Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion… We shall unleash the Nihilists and the atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude, disillusioned with christianity, whose deistic spirits will from that moment be without compass or direction, anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to render its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view.

This manifestation will result from the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.

Albert Pike can Predict the Future?

Those with a critical eye will recognize that if this quote is true, Albert Pike had an uncanny ability to use phrases long before they ever made it in to the public vernacular. In fact he’s so prophetic, it immediately sheds doubt on the authenticity of the letter, which was supposed to have been written in 1871. Pike himself was born on December 29, 1809, and died on April 2, 1891. He was a Brigadier General in the Confederate Army during the American Civil War.

According to the text he claims that the first world war “must be brought about in order to permit the Illuminati to overthrow the power of the Czars in Russia and of making that country a fortress of atheistic Communism…”

While theoretically the term communism could have been used by Pike, as it was popularized in its modern understanding by Marx and Engels in the 1840s, ahead of the publication of the Communist Manifesto, the roots of the Russian Revolution did not form until the 1890s, some 20 years after the letter was allegedly written and when Pike was on his last legs. The reader must question whether Pike could have been privy to the possible outcomes of Russian industrialization on its workers, years before those workers themselves had ever heard of Marx or formed a movement to oppose their masters? And if he was, how could he have such foresight to suggest a World War could simply be brought about and that it could be controlled in such a manner to accomplish his goals? Even if this far-fetched idea is possible, there is nothing of substance to suggest it actually happened. No minutes from meetings, no other letters, no corroborating references to Pike anywhere other than this alleged letter.

It should also be noted that the only “Illuminati” documented within decades of the time-frame of the letter was the “Bavarian Illuminati” which officially disbanded in 1785. Though conspiracy theories flourish to this day and the term is used in the abstract, serious accusations of the group’s secret continuation had died out at least 50 years before the letter was allegedly written. Out of all the verified Pike literature, not one mention is made of this Illuminati, not even in his often criticized book Morals & Dogma. So if Pike believed this war must take place for the Illuminati, who are they? And what evidence is there to support that they existed? Of course some careless proponents of the “letter” will say they’re a secret…but if they are such a well kept secret, how do YOU know they are/were real?

The rest of the “letter” is extremely dubious. Terms like Fascism, Nazism and Zionism were never really used in Pike’s lifetime. Zionism as a word was coined in 1890 by Nathan Birnbaum and would not take root for several more years. There is no record of Pike knowing or meeting Birnbaum. The ideological roots of Fascism were only in their infancy during Pike’s final years, and the term was not used publicly until Mussolini took his position in the 1920s. The term Nazism did not emerge until the 1930s with the rise of Germany’s National Socialist party.

Unless Albert Pike can predict the future he did not write this “letter”…that or it never exited in the first place.

Origins of the Letter

To get to the bottom of where the alleged 3 World Wars letter comes from we need to retrace the trail of sources. ThreeWorldWars.com is the originator of the text as printed above; this is the quote that circulates most prominently around the Internet. Though the website does actually state that “no conclusive proof exists to show that this letter was ever written,” it falsely claims that the letter is found in the book Satan: Prince of This World by William Guy Carr.

This simply isn’t the case. Only one section of the text appears in the book (p29) and that is the final chunk…

“We shall unleash the Nihilists and Atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations (people of different nationalities), the effects of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil…” etc.

What we do find in Guy Carr’s other book Pawns In The Game is a series of paragraphs that do for the most part fit the text, however they aren’t direct quotes, rather Carr’s own interpretation of the “letter” which he gleaned from another factually incorrect book.

This is how Carr begins his paragraph on the first World War. “The first world war was to be fought so as to enable the Illuminati to overthrow the powers of the Tzars in Russia…”Again this does not appear in quotations, it is not copied from the “letter”, it’s Carr’s own claim.

ThreeWorldWars.com have not only cited the wrong Carr book, but they’ve deceptively altered text that appears in another of his books and presented it as a direct quote from the “letter”. Carr’s “The first world war was to be fought…” has somehow become “The First World War must be brought about…” and deceptively attributed directly to Albert Pike. At no point does Carr say Pike wrote that text.

The only section of the “letter” that is directly quoted in Carr’s books is the “We shall unleash the Nihilists…” chunk. No mention of World Wars, no mention of Communism, Fascism or Nazism. No Zionists, and no Illuminati. Just a vague goal about getting rid of Christianity.

Initially Carr had claimed the mythical letter of which this tiny bit of quoted text emanates was on display at the British museum. He later backtracked writing in Satan: Prince of This World… “The Keeper of Manuscripts recently informed the author that this letter is NOT catalogued in the British Museum Library. It seems strange that a man of Cardinal Rodriguez’s knowledge should have said that it WAS in 1925”.

What this tells us is that Carr had no first hand knowledge of the “letter” or its validity, and everything he writes about it is pure fantasy. How exactly can he quote, describe or summarize it if he hasn’t seen it?

He shifts the blame on to Cardinal Rodriguez of Chile, whose The Mystery of Freemasonry Unveiled was published in 1925.

Again this book has no direct quotes from the alleged letter. Rodriguez writes on pages 115-6…

The other indication of the participation of Masonry in the Revolution and the present upheaval in Russia is a letter in Le Diable au XIXème Siècle (1896), attributed to Albert Pike, “Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Masonry”, assisted by ten Ancients of the Grand Lodge of the Supreme Orient of Charleston to the very illustrious Joseph Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871. What I have said of the document previously mentioned, The Protocols, I say of this one: Authentic or not, the letter had been published long enough before the events, not to be an invention accommodated post factum. Its publication is catalogued in the British Museum of London and the plan attributed to Pike is also in part in Le Palladisme Of Margiotta, p. 186 published in 1895.

Note that Rodriguez does not know if the “letter” is real… “Authentic or not”, and his claim that it “is catalogued in the British Museum”, was debunked when William Guy Carr had to admit it wasn’t there in his book. So where did Rodriguez get his information from?

Le Palladisme, Domenico Margiotta, 1895, p186 onwards.

If we scan this book for Albert Pike we come to a section from page 127 of the PDF that we can put through Google Translate. Here is Google’s rough translation, referring to a “pamphlet” allegedly written by Pike…

In a pamphlet designed with impeccable logic, Albert Pike clearly traces the outline of his dogmatic but above the general level of its sectarian politics. A masterful introduction, as through a portal strange the Luciferian Grand Pontiff led us within mysterious darkness of the Temple, the vision of the True Light, with meditate on terrifying predictions as oracles of ancient Pythia, and suggestions power hell and he loves it invokes. By sacrilegious mouth The Genius of Evil reveals his projects universal destruction and gives us the reason for the infernal sect.

Then, we are counting the followers of all religions of the world: he intentionally assigns to religion Catholic secondary rank, and book groups fanciful. For the purpose of the cause and treacherous deductions place it in the rays of the True Light all those who are not in the lap of Roman Church, He enlisted and mobilizes face to the enemy under the banner of God-Good. Here in the camp Lucifer deployed in line of battle Buddhists already enlightened by the True Light, the Mohammedans and Jews steeped in its dark huge, Protestants are marching boldly.

On the other side, here is, Dust men, these Catholic cursed, doomed to darkness. He also cites the hoi polloi 130 million idolaters, and fetish worshipers various idols, keeping to themselves, forming formidable challenge the two fighters, the price of victory, the anima vili about which hold the universal Masonic power!

Here again the outcasts, the damned, a few million freethinkers deists, and two million atheists, dedicated by Luciferian great Pontiff to the disapproval of the sect, threatened a complete extermination or conversion to mass the religion of the True Light. These are the two enemies present. I give you thanks, dear readers, the description he gives us the fray epic and universal ensuing, the prodigious impact of these various harsh elements against each other. The great Luciferian Pontiff predicted the defeat of Catholicism And continuing its dark prophecy, he describes wandering in search of a throne and altar Pope Adonai. But as it is written in the book of heaven, Orthodox and schismatics being prey promised to God-Bad is the among them the Pope wandering under the auspices of the autocrat of North to restore his power adonaïte worship until predicted its eventual collapse. The final destruction of the Papacy, lead inevitably a general stampede, and dissolution of its components: Clergy, deprived of its leader, happen gradually to the enemy, which would leave the field open to the infernal band. In anticipation of this event, the crafty Gossip provides advice and exhortations, he traces the ably its attack and defense politico-sectarian plan and the means to carry it out.

This is the pamphlet, by satire, mockery, that wants to demolish Catholicism, he ridicules more noble Christian sentiments, Charity, It blows doubt, suspicion and contempt on all actions inspired talk purest love of neighbor, and with evident bad faith, he attributed to the spirit of domination of the priest! Better than harpies the fable, it not only pollutes it touches, but it touches, and God knows he was embarrassed to be in the field inviolable conscience, faith and reason, incursions sacrilegious, reckless attacks. He launched his followers to attack the political powers and legislative, they stand in all avenues to Catholic; advises the insolent domination of instruction, on schools, to complete the corruption youth and deliver, helpless, the hands of sectarian,
which will be the instrument of their present size and future.

It banishes any scruple of conscience, if he is never existed in the soul of a sectarian; on how to implemented to achieve the desired goal, everything is good: the slander, lying, the flattery and proud contempt, hypocrisy, false, shameful capitulations, the insolent summons, poison, the dagger, the following cases or circumstances. He committed to the sectarian hatred missionaries
apostolic, these hardy pioneers of civilization, And generates for each propagandist follower of the devil, the blasphemer proselytizing. These valiant apostles, these cross modern faith are they, in fact, as the dam huge that opposes the corrupting tide of disbelief and impiety?

He cites the great blasphemer Voltaire, And place under the patronage of this dishonorable man for whom everything was a pretext to banter, to sarcasm, and that nothing was religious, nor religion, or family, nor the people, neither the king, or God, nothing Except his thin person and his genius overrated. But here the attack Holy emerges with rigor, and the idea, dominant, the principles that should govern the work of destruction are condensed into thirteen sections suggestive, in which the great mage has distilled all his venom, has put all his Luciferian science, and given the extent of its liberalism, tolerance, and noble sentiments that empirical reraient his actions, if the sect could legislate without control.

It is Italy after the breach of Porta Pia, that on instances of Mazzini, the Luciferian Pontiff, After a evil cabal which lasted seven days and which had taken from eleven of the highlights of the infernal sect had route that infamous indictment and bill aimed at for destroy Catholicism, Italy, and reduce the Pope and the Bishops provided to state employees. After this chimera, the Pontiff learned Lucifer pleased with himself, right in between considerations, while at least reckless in international politics, and the tone a false and pedantic doctrinaire, it gives the idea insidiously nationalize the clergy not only in Italy, but all Catholic countries, to remove any authority Pope and the clergy to deliver anarchy, which would allow him to annihilate in detail at his ease. But console ourselves, good Catholics, our enemies willing to give us a few centuries of existence, before devote ourselves to all the powers of Hell. They understand and admit, in spite of themselves, these unconscious barkers, the Papacy is not to thank you for fanatics that no other ambition to raise On the ruins of faith, the prostitute altar an infernal rite.

It is easy, therefore, to see what masterpiece aberration and pride is the contemporary Satanism, and it is astonishing to thought that the skeptic in worldly delights, and powerful minds, men of high intellectual consent has cover their name, to illustrate, so to speak these rantings infernal. The f… Ernest Renan, author of the infamous novel “Life of Jesus “is one of those who have their name dragged in the mud. It rehabilitates Satan, and report it to the adoration of the crowd dumbfounded, the Great Milton is his bond, and he invokes to take on anathema twenty centuries old protégé sad. By specious arguments we make it, it was black, white as snow. We represents a revolutionary wretched (Sic), which therefore deserves all the respect due by demagogues to illustrious ancestor. Renan who saw in him the? Divine sparks? Excuse to be exclusive stops and you know why? while simply fear? wrapped in his condemnation some subdued beauty. Poor Renan! it would have been so easy reduce quia asking him to tell us the hidden meaning of this beautiful sentence!

Eliphas Levi, us the secret of the magic in high prelude with an invocation or imprecation to shiver. It then explains the science and philosophy deny the existence the devil, and that the only religion says, for the religion devil is a fallen angel and occult philosophy accepts and explains this definition. It defines us as the devil “The Devil, by Black Magic, this is the great magical agent used for evil by a perverse desire.”

This definitiontion therefore seems to reprimand goètes, that is to say the followers of black magic. Constant for Kadosh is the astral light is the great magical agent, but a refinement of malice it suggesting that this agent may be invoked only by reason, in penalty only have disordered and monstrous results if was invoked by madness. One wonders, after that, by which unconsciousness or How can deception and prostitution human reason to ramblings so disconcerting…

Once again there are no direct quotes from the alleged pamphlet or “letter” but the gist of the text suggests that Pike wanted to destroy all religions, including Catholicism, and convert everyone over to Luciferianism. In that sense the theme of the books that followed were at least similar.

The second book cited by Cardinal Rodriguez was Le Diable au XIXème Siècle, 1986, by Docteur Bataille. Terry Melanson of ConspiracyArchive.com tracked down the text to Volume 2, Chapter XXXV, pages 594-606.

“At the beginning of August 1871, that is to say less than a year after the establishment of Palladism (Supreme Rite), the “learned Luciferian Pontiff” Albert Pike received an important letter from Mazzini. The political action leader for Universal Freemasonry invited the supreme dogmatic leader of the sect to draw up a clear plan with a view toward the destruction of Roman Catholicism…” Full text @ ConspiracyArchive.com

Once again there are no grandiose predictions of 3 World Wars; the theme is about the destruction of religions, with most focus on Catholicism, the power of the day.

At this point the trail of sources stop. In short there literally is no primary source for the “letter”. It does not exist and has not been directly quoted from or reproduced by any author. The earliest book that makes reference to a “letter” Le Diable au XIXème Siècle, was written by “Docteur Bataille” the pseudonym of self professed hoaxer from the 1890s Léo Taxil, who feigned support for the Catholic church and wrote a series of outlandish anti-Freemasonry books to mock both the Church’s stance on Freemasonry and the Freemasons themselves. In many ways he was the Richard Dawkins of his time, a champion for scientific thinking over the irrationality and silliness of Catholicism and occult teachings.

Those peddling the 3 World Wars quote are literally falling for a hundred year old hoax. The concept that Freemasonry is Satanism, Luciferianism or Devil Worship is the very kind of close-minded religious thinking that Taxil was mocking all those years ago, and ironically his self-professed hoaxes are fanning the flames to this day.

“The public made me what I am; the arch-liar of the period,” confessed Taxil, “for when I first commenced to write against the Masons my object was amusement pure and simple. The crimes I laid at their door were so grotesque, so impossible, so widely exaggerated, I thought everybody would see the joke and give me credit for originating a new line of humor. But my readers wouldn’t have it so; they accepted my fables as gospel truth, and the more I lied for the purpose of showing that I lied, the more convinced became they that I was a paragon of veracity.

“Then it dawned upon me that there was lots of money in being a Munchausen of the right kind, and for twelve years I gave it to them hot and strong, but never too hot. When inditing such slush as the story of the devil snake who wrote prophecies on Diana’s back with the end of his tail, I sometimes said to myself: ‘Hold on, you are going too far,’ but I didn’t. My readers even took kindly to the yarn of the devil who, in order to marry a Mason, transformed himself into a crocodile, and, despite the masquerade, played the piano wonderfully well.

“One day when lecturing at Lille, I told my audience that I had just had an apparition of Nautilus, the most daring affront on human credulity I had so far risked. But my hearers never turned a hair. ‘Hear ye, the doctor has seen Nautulius,’ they said with admiring glances. Of course no one had a clear idea of who Nautilus was I didn’t myself but they assumed that he was a devil. Ah, the jolly evenings I spent with my fellow authors hatching out new plots, new, unheard of perversions of truth and logic, each trying to outdo the other in organized mystification. I thought I would kill myself laughing at some of the things proposed, but everything went; there is no limit to human stupidity.”

– Leo Taxil, National Magazine, 1906.

Conclusion

As useful as the Three World Wars letter is for those with a conspiratorial world view, it simply does not stand up to scrutiny and makes anyone who uses it with a straight face look foolish and careless in their research.

War is most certainly contrived, manipulated and exploited by those with secret agendas. Lies about Saddam’s WMD capabilities, the elements of prior knowledge and complicity by the US and other Governments surrounding 9/11, and even the corporate beneficiaries of the World Wars, prove that war is about a lot more than our officials and the media tell us. And yes the conflict between the Arab World and the nuclear armed Zionists is a very real threat. However if we are to challenge the status quo and scale back these threats we need to drop the fantasies. World leaders and those in positions of power that foment conflict have names, titles and chains of command. They don’t hide behind a non-secret secret society called the Illuminati, and they certainly aren’t working at the behest of some long dead Satanic Confederate General.

I discussed the infamous 3 World Wars letter allegedly sent by Albert Pike to Giuseppe Mazzini on the April 05, 2011, WideShut Webcast: “While sectors of Freemasonry may have become corrupted at various points in history, this particular letter appears to be a fabrication used to smear Masons, ironically based off an old hoax created to mock religious fanatics.”ARCHIVE

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Keelan Balderson is the editor of WideShut.co.uk, and producer of documentaries 7/7 What Did They Know? and Perfect Storm: The England Riots. Keeping a critical eye on Government, Corporate Power, and the causes of Terrorism, he aims to broaden the Western world view.

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• morten_h
  Thanks Keelan for presenting a lot of thoughtful ideas and for being non-dogmatic. For de-bunking without the positivist or propagandist approach.
  I stumbled on two thoughts. One being that Zionism was basically about the state of Israel. The other one being the standard use of the term ‘anti semitims’.
  To start with the latter. I think, we should be careful not to use the word in the standard way. Just think about it. What is a semite. The is a lot of disaggreement here, but it it would make any sense, it is a word for a whole bunch of languages / people that speak those languages. Semitic languages is not just hebrew, but also Arabic, Amharic, Tigrinya, and Aramaic. Semitic languages are spoken by appr. 240 million people. If you are the – in the litterate meaning og the word – anti-semitic, you will then hate 240 million people based on their way of speaking.
  I know of course, that this is not the way, the word is used. The word is a spinn-word used by zionist lobbyists like the Defamation League, as you also mention. Every time critisism is uttered against e.g. Israel, the spinndoctors shout about anti-semitism, thus creating and maintaining the victim-role to shut down critisism. My point is: by using the word, we use THEIR word. It is an absurd and treacherous word blurring certain facts.
  The other idea is about zionism. In my opinion it is about much more than the state of Israel. Zionism only has Israel as an instrument of a larger agenda. This is though a VERY long story, which would be much too heavy for a blog comment. My feeling is, that you probably know what i am referring to, since you are very well informed in those matters.
  One has to look into af very extensive area of Khazarian tradesmen, bankers and politicians. They are the dominating banking dynasties of Europe and USA. One also has to include the nazis, the catholic church and the free masons. As you say, it is extremely complex, and there are several factions fighting each other.
  One thing I find important. We should distinguish between Jews / judaism and zionism. An interesting angle on this is in fact the events taking place around the start of our timeline B.C and A.C. when the romans raped the jews not only of their land but more important: of their identity and collective soul. Just as they did with all other people in the empire: the etruscans, the celts, a.s.o. They stole their history and their Messiah-myth. And all the original scrolls from the temple. Then of course, as we know, Jerusalem was destroyed and other important places in Judea, the jews were sent in diaspora and judaism-light was created = christianity. Modern jew don’t even know, that they are descendants of Egyptians and that all the core stories of the 5 books of Moses are to be found in much earlier Sumerian texts written on clay tablets.
  We live – today – in weird times. You may call it ‘late roman-empirical times’. The empire never died, as Philip K. Dick states. Zionism is in a way a morph of the ideology that escaped the empire, when it fell apart. The essense of it is about world dominance. It is the wet dream about the World Empire, the EU, the 1000-year kingdom, the New World Order. It is the motif of Charlemagnes Empire, The Second Roman Empire, The Third Reich, The Napoleon Empire, The British Emire, The American Emire. Zionists dream about ‘The New Jerusualem’ and the rebuilding of the temple and Jerusalem of the center of the new empire.
  Big story. Very complex. Lots of work and study.
  Respect for those that dare and endure.
  morten_h
  • Keelan Balderson
    Thanks for the well thought out comment. I personally believe that those behind Zionism are more than happy to let the average Jewish personand even thestate of Israel crash and burn. I think it’s important to look past labels…the people at the top are not the same as everybody else, they see no borders or popular religion.
• Allthatis
  i would like to make a few points concerning this to Keelan,
  Do you really BELIEVE the masonic website or as you call it the OFFICIAL LINE ??? they have been making there plans way in advance and to imply the letter is fake because it mentions zionism or nazism is ridiculous , i listened painfully to your webcast and i have to say i would question who it is you are speaking for from the very beginning , your research is half-baked and resting on the very people who are forwarding this agenda to tell you they didnt do anything !!!
  You have no clue as to what is really is going on and are clearly here to defend those doing dark deeds who are also masons and debunk anything said about them with weak arguments and poor research and understanding,
  Frankly i would be amazed if ANYONE with both sides of their brain working could fall for this tripe you are presenting as fact, and the letter to Mazzini who is also the man behind the Black hand [mafia] and was a fascist and high ranking mason himself , but clearly your thorough research missed that as you know as well as i do your not here to tell the truth just the mason’s version of the truth which basically is a lie, and you are being revealed by the true seekers who attach to now “truther ” or other staged groups , but move forward every moment of their lives to bring the change that will overcome all that has been hidden and this is your time to be revealed.
  regards
  All that is
  • Keelan Balderson
    There’s no letter, it’s that simple. There’s no evidence for a letter, there never was.
    “Oh but those behind the letter are so powerful they managed to tarnish all the evidence and make it look like it was fake”.
    Seriously, listen to yourself.
    As I make it clear in the video…I’m not giving the Masons or what you might call Luciferians a pass, and I DO think the 3rd world war is highly likely, BUT there was no letter, and if we continue to use it we just discredit ourselves. There are other sources that prove a lot of this stuff, the letter is a strawman red-herring.
    If we take all conspiracy material as gospel we discredit the wider movement.
• Sir Keef
  The thing question that intrigues me is not who put this out there but when was it written? If it is a fraud the fact remains that whoever is responsible for this must have had incredibly precocious understanding of the geo-political landscape of the 20th/early 21st century. Whether it was a letter written in 1871 or a hoax perpetrated in 1891 it still seems remarkably accurate doesn’t it – or am I missing something?
  • Keelan Balderson
    The first time we see the 3 world war text is in the book Pawns in the Game 1958. So only the 3rd world war would be a prediction. If we follow the source material back, there is no letter. So basically William Guy Carr created the myth in 1958 based off hearsay of a source that didn’t exist and can be thinly traced back to some hoaxers. When people like Icke say “well some people say it was a forgery, but it’s very prophetic”, he fails to realize that nothing was actually written down until after world war 2, so it’s not prophetic at all.
    All that being said, I certainly do not support Masons nor Albert Pike, and I also don’t discount research that suggests they are Luciferian. But this particular meme appears to be false.
    • http://SHWNSCHNS SHAWN
      WHAT DO YOU MEAN SUGGEST PIKE WAS LUCIFERIAN…….WOW! HE SAYS IT HIS SELF…..HE SAID IT…DOUBT IT NOT? GET IT? THIS MAN WAS A RAVING PSYCHO. HE SET UP MANY A FAMILY TO BE SLAUGHTERED TO GET THE PICS FOR THE PAPERS. HE DID ANYTHING HE COULD FOR THE BANKERS AND THEIR PROTOCOLS OF ZION. FREEMASONRY IS 100% JEWISH. THEIR TOP HONOR IS A BADGE THAT HAS THE 12 TRIBES GEMS IN 3 ROWS OF FOUR BREASTPLATE OF THE PHARISEES. GO PEDDLE YOUR PAPERS JR. MASONRY WAS THE RED TERROR. ALL MASONIC JEWS MOST FROM NY LIKE TROTSKY. REAL NAME BRONSTEIN. LENIN WAS UNYLOV, STALIN WAS DJUGASHVILI WHICH MEANS SON OF JEWS. GO GOOGLE PICS OF THEM ALL DOING THE HIDDEN HAND POSE. ALL OF THEM…OOOPS, I FORGOT KARL MARX, REAL NAME MOSES MORDECEA LEVY. THEY WERE ALL JEWISH MASONS WITH FAKE NAMES. CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT GENIUS, I CALL IT THE PROTOCOLS OF A MAD BANKER PAYING PEOPLE WHO ARE INDOCTRINATED SINCE BIRTH THINKING THEY ARE CHOSEN SOMETHINGS? THE MASTERS KNOW ABOUT AKHENATEN……… DO YOU? HE WAS FIRST MONOTHEIST…BUT I THOUGHT MOSES WAS?????? YOU DIDN’T LISTEN LITTLE “ADEPT” THE ONLY MAGIC THESE PEOPLE HAVE, OR HAVE EVER HAD, IS THE WILL TO KILL AND KILL MORE AND MORE. OUR HISTORY IS ONE BIG ABUSE BY THE CHOSEN ONES. THEY’VE ALWAYS CONTROLLED THE POPES SINCE AS FAR BACK AS THE 700’S SOME SAY FROM THE FIRST DAY. YOU SEE, THE FIRST LOADS OF EASY TO GET GOLD CAME TO EGYPT IN THEIR DAY. THOSE MERCHANTS WAITED FOR POPULATIONS TO MOVE, THEN THEY WOULD SET UP THEIR LITTLE “MAFIAMASON” MONOPOLY WORLD, DECIDING WHO THE WINNERS AND LOSERS ARE SINCE THEN BASICALLY. THEY USED THAT MASSIVE AMOUNT OF WEALTH TO JUST KEEP BUILDING IT. THE LEVITICAL PRIESTHOOD WAS AKHENATENS PRIESTS ALSO? WAS MOSES FREED…..OR WAS HE BOOTED OUT WITH HIS ONE GOD ATEN-SATURN. OR……….THEN THEY BROUGHT BACK IN AMEN RA, HORUS, ISIS, ANUBIS, THOTH AND THE CREW. SIGMUND FREUD’S REAL PASSION WAS HISTORY. HIS LAST BOOK WHEN HIS WORK WITH THE ROTHSCHILD BANKERS WAS FINISHED, HE WROTE MOSES AND MONOTHEISM, HE THOUGHT MOSES WAS AKHENATEN. HE WAS GIVEN ACCESS TO VATICAN HISTORY VAULTS AND THE DATES ARE HARD TO RUN FROM. MUCH EVIDENCE POINTS TO AKHENATEN HIMSELF BEING MOSES. IT’S THE DATES. THE BANKERS PAY THE EGYPTIANS WITH MONEY AND THREATS TO GIVE THE “OFFICIAL” TEXTBOOKS NARRATIVES TO KEEP YOU THE MILK COW FOR THE ELITES. EL, THERE IS SATURN AGAIN. IT SUCKS THAT EVERYONE STILL BUYS THEIR BOLOGNA STORIES.
• JJ
  There is no proof for or against, so Mr. Keelan Balderson, neither do you have any proof than just “he said she said”. You’re trying to prove your opinion (conviction), which is more than obvious! Otherwise you wouldn’t reply to comments with such “conviction”.
  I stand neither for nor against the allegations that this “Albert Pike” letter is fake or not. Whether it’s authentic or fake doesn’t change a thing to what is happening in the world and that there are evil men plotting to control the world of which there is mountains of evidence. I suppose I’m just curious to figure out what your motivation is to your so called “debunking” of the Albert Pike letter. I agree that exaggerated claims of conspiracies should be squashed and routed out, and then that only facts remain.
  People, governments, corporations do conspire, and of which certain facts leak to the public, and out of these leaked facts conspiracy theories are constructed (some more elaborate than others). There are a lot of kooks about but also those who are being accused of being kooks but all they are doing is relaying cold hard facts. I just hope you are not one of those that will accuse the wrong people of being kooks! Not that you are doing that in this instance, but I just hope that you spend your energy in trying to uncover real facts about evil men that are plotting against mankind rather than trying to debunk “conspiracy theorists”.
  It’s the cry wolf story being played out in real life I suppose.
  Cheers
  • Keelan Balderson
    I find your tone quite offensive and insinuating.
    I went in to this episode believing the Pike quote to 100% true and I was going to comment on its implications, but upon following the source material back I discovered it was essentially made up and based off self-admitted hoaxes. Thus as a truth seeker I changed my opinion based on the available evidence.
    Whether it’s authentic or fake doesn’t change a thing to what is happening in the world and that there are evil men plotting to control the world of which there is mountains of evidence.
    There is NO evidence to support that the letter is authentic. But I do obviously agree that it doesn’t change the evidence that does exist about the world being manipulated by the elite. Which I cover every single day.
    I suppose I’m just curious to figure out what your motivation is to your so called “debunking” of the Albert Pike letter.
    Well isn’t it obvious? I found it to be false claim, why would I continue to support a false claim? I wanted to get this out there so people don’t get strawmanned in debates or made to look foolish.
    
    I agree that exaggerated claims of conspiracies should be squashed and routed out, and then that only facts remain.
    The please reassess your belief in the Albert Pike letter. Maybe I should be asking what your motives are?
    People, governments, corporations do conspire, and of which certain facts leak to the public, and out of these leaked facts conspiracy theories are constructed (some more elaborate than others). There are a lot of kooks about but also those who are being accused of being kooks but all they are doing is relaying cold hard facts. I just hope you are not one of those that will accuse the wrong people of being kooks! Not that you are doing that in this instance, but I just hope that you spend your energy in trying to uncover real facts about evil men that are plotting against mankind rather than trying to debunk “conspiracy theorists”.
    They go hand in hand. There’s a shed load of bullshit online that make us look stupid. If we don’t weed out the bullshit, then we’re just as guilty as the mainstream media in promoting propaganda.
    So to conclude, I don’t spend the majority of my time researching, writing articles, doing radio shows and making documentaries to be accused of having some ulterior motive. Money certainly isn’t a factor because I make pennies doing this.
    • http://SHWNSCHNS SHAWN
      MAYBE THAT’S WHY THEY’RE ALL GETTING RICHER BY THE SECOND AND EVERYONE ELSE AROUND THE WORLD IS IN DEBT AND FAKE TERROR WARS TO GUIDE US INTO THE “BIG CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS” YOUR MASTERS HAVE BEEN PUSHING US TOWARD. IT’S THE JUDEOMASONIC PLAN. ARE YOU STUPID OR ROWING DOWN THE D-NILE RIVER? THE BANKERS ARE RICH, THE COUNTRY’S ARE BROKE AND IN DEBT TO THEM…..YOU TELL ME WHO’S SCREWING WHO. YOU WANT TO MATCH WITS WITH ME WHEN YOU AREN’T SHARP ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIN SHEETS OF ALUM FASHIONED INTO A TUBE CANNOT SLICE THROUGH STEEL AND CONCRETE. A WOODEN TELEPHONE POLE WOULD TAKE ANY OF TODAY’S PLANES APART…..AT ANY SPEED. I’M A MASTER METALLURGIST AND YOU’RE A PROGRAMMED MORON. GOOD DAY MORON.
      • Tom
        Pow. Great reply, SHAWN.
• Nick Nafsah
  Albert Pike didn’t write this document. It should be obvious to even a novice researcher that Pike wrote in a very different manner than is found in this forgery.
  Another problem with this document is that it can’t be located in any library of Pike’s writings. This is a problem for because ALL of Pike’s writings have long been public, most of them during his lifetime or shortly after his death.
  A further problem: One can find whatever one is looking for in Pike’s works. Like others in his day, Pike was working to break the tyranny of a highly repressive and oppressive system – namely the Catholic church and its Inquisition (still active even today). Pike wrote in poetic allusions and intended to push the superstitious buttons of those who run the repressive system. He did a splendid job of this.
  Having studied Pike’s writings for 40 years, and also having been involved (as an Executive and Officer) with Blue Lodge and Scottish Rite Freemasonry for 30 years, I’m aware of the real situation within both systems. I could easily “reveal” many sordid details about SR and may do so as I get closer to the end of my life. But even if I were to do this, the things I’d reveal are no different from what one will find in any group of human beings.
  As someone who’s been “inside” the highest levels of SR, the main problem I have with them concerns what they did to the Blue Lodge.
  Simply put, Scottish Rite usurped the authority of the Blue Lodge and, as was the fashion of the time, sought to incorporate everything they could from ancient rites and societies. SR is definitely a tool of what eventually came to be known as the New World Order.
  Those of us who’ve been through the SR rituals, attended their meetings, and served in various capacities in their “charity” organizations know that SR follows a Satanic-Luciferian ideology, meaning only that they believe power, control, and wealth are the ultimate goal of human life.
  But, as Eric Blair described in “Nineteen-Eighty-Four”, they (the ruling elite) don’t see all of humanity as being on their level. They want to establish a Platonic system, with a few at the top owning and running everything, a middle group managing their operations, and the low group (the vast majority) serving as Helots.
  Contrast this to the goals of Blue Lodge Freemasonry. In the Blue Lodge, the goal is education of the masses, establishing Constitutional Republics, providing opportunity to everyone, all based on moral and ethical principles that ensure true justice.
  Blue Lodge Freemasonry focuses exclusively on the building of King Solomon’s Temple. Scottish Rite focuses on the Tower of Babel. This is the best way I can describe why one should avoid SR and do whatever possible to help the Blue Lodge.
  • Keelan Balderson
    Very interesting insight, thanks for posting.
  • http://SHWNSCHNS SHAWN
    BENJAMIN FREEDMAN QUOTES IT. HE WAS AT THE TREATY OF VERSAILLES…..HE WAS PERSONAL PROTEGE’ OF BERNARD BARUCH. A HOAX? HAHAHAHHA THERE ISN’T A SERIOUS SCHOLAR ON EARTH THAT DOESN’T KNOW IT WAS IN THE BRITISH MUSEUM UNTIL A CERTAIN FAMILY GOT CONTROL OF THE BOARD. DR. BARUCH, BERNARDS FATHER DELIVERED BENJAMIN. BERNARD BARUCH
    DATED BENS SISTER FOR YEARS. WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT. WOW IS ALL I CAN SAY. YOU ARE A JUDEOMASONIC PUSSY. WE KNOW YOUR EVIL YOU LITTLE PUKE. I’M MASTER METALLURGIST AND THIN ALUM SHEETS FASHIONED INTO A TUBE WILL NOT SLICE THROUGH STEEL AND CONCRETE NO MATTER HOW BRAINWASHED YOU ARE. YOU’RE A SATURN CULT. ISRAEL MEANS ISIS RA EL, WHICH IS SATURN. THE OLD MAN WITH A BEARD YOU HAVE ALL AROUND YOU….RABBIS WEAR BLACK CUBE ON THEIR HEADS AND ARMS. FREEMASONRY IS 100% JEWISH MYSTERY SCHOOLS. MYSTERY SCHOOLS ARE JUST MYTHS…LIES….LIES ARE YOUR MASTERS MAGIC. I’M THE 12 GEN GRANDSON OF MAJ. GENERAL ISRAEL PUTNAM I HAVE ABOUT 9 GRANDMASTERS IN MY FAMILY LINE. BOTH MY GRANDPAS WERE 32 DEGREE MASONS, JOSEPH MARTIN PUTNAM DIED MARCH 14 69. MY OTHER IS ALBERT SCHONS DIED IN 75. YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE BROTHER AND I HAD TO CALL YOU ON YOUR BULLSHIT. I WOULDN’T HAVE RESPONDED BUT WHEN SOMEONE COMMENTS AFTER YOU LIKE THEY BOUGHT YOUR BOTTLED BULLSHIT OUT THE MASON HALL. IT’S A CON GAME. EVERYONE IS NOT INCLUDED. ARE YOU A FOOL? ARE YOU A LUCIFERIAN? YOU ARE MIXED UP. I’M A SO CALLED JEW. HISTORY HAS BEEN CHANGED. ABE LINCOLN WAS ABE SPRINGSTEIN. DUH? HIS FATHER WAS ROTHSCHILD A.A. SPRINGSTEIN. CHANGED HIS NAME TO SPRINGS AND WAS THE RICHEST MAN IN THE SOUTH. HE CONTROLLED THE FINANCE THE CARPETBAGGERS TO STEAL THE SOUTH DRY AND TRANSFER IT ALL TO JEWS AND MASONS FOOLING YOU THE WHOLE WHILE. YOUR WORSHIPFUL MASTER IS THE EYE AND EARS FOR THE EVIL BANKERS WHO HEAD THE MASONIC ORDER. DUDE, A PRIEST USED TO QUOTE THE 3 WORLD WARS LETTER ALL THE TIME JUST AFTER WORLD WAR ONE. THEN TWO HAPPENED WITH THE PLAYERS JUST AS THEY DESCRIBED. DID YOU KNOW THAT THE FIRST STAR OF SATURN THAT THEY HAVE YOU THINKING IS THE STAR OF DAVID WAS WHEN IN ANCIENT EGYPT THE LAWMEN THAT WENT AND GOT CRIMINALS OR LAWBREAKERS, THEY WORE THAT BADGE, IT WAS THE STAR OF SATURN, IT MEANS REASTRIAINT, CONTROL, ALSO GOD OF SACRIFICE. ….HAHAHAH THE OLD TESTAMENT IS EGYPTIAN HALF TRUTH AND OUT AND OUT MYTH. GOOGLE WHO SAID …..”THANK THE MASONS IN AMERICA FOR BUILDING THEIR OWN FAMILIES JAILS”. NESTA WEBSTER SAID THE MASONS WERE THE BANKERS USEFUL IDIOTS. HAHAHAH THE BANKERS LOOK AT EVERYONE ELSE AS EITHER USEFUL, OR USELESS IDIOTS. THAT IS WHO YOU’RE PAYING YOUR DUES TO.
  • Jimmy
    What a crock, they are both shabus goy organisations of complete and utter patsys for the Jews.
    Jewish control of Britain would be impossible without an army of 750 000 hidden mason goys, whose ceremonial head is the Jewish Queen of Britain.
    I recomend reading (The hidden power behind Freemasonry)by that great man of God Lt Gen Jack Mohr.
    You can find it for free in PDF on a number of websites just search Google.
  • Carter
    Is it true that Scottish Rite masonry isn’t actually Scottish? I read it’s an amalgamation of two redundant French lodges, one of which was named after St Andrew, hence ‘Scottish’ Rite. I do wonder why Scotland gets away with so much though, which makes me think the connection may be stronger than I suppose. Hardly any immigration in Scotland and the people live well at England’s expense. No coverage of Scotland’s all-white selection policy in sport, while Scottish politicians under [Scotsman] Blair organized the biggest influx of immigrants into England in history. The same people did nothing when Scottish asylum offices refused to process applications, sending newcomers to England instead. Today the non-white population of Scotland is still only around half of 1 per cent. Word is that Edinburgh’s Speculative Society exerts immense political influence at Westminster, but in any event there’s no doubt something stinks and that Scotland and Scottish masonry is active in aiding the EU to destroy England. That is my impression anyway.
  • Sean Torres
    Interesting post so it is the writing style essentially hmmm mayhaps he was only sending a message on behalf of another?
• Jeremy
  They are Soros Jews! Betrayers.
  • Emil Gottfried
    These people are zionist nazis, khazars-gypsies. Israel was created for conquest by them and the real Jews were lured there for political purposes and their eventual, soon, destruction. The prophesy is 6 million will perish before the land is returned. They put forth this number 3 times with WW2 finally sticking even though the number killed was actually between 1 and 2 million. As of August of this year, there are 6 million Jews in Israel, 6 million in one place for the first time in history as I understand it. Their plans are to wipe them out and take as many Muslims out with them as possible. Expect a lot of overshoot/overkill from the stated targets as well.The elimination of all religions based on God is their goal and installing lucifer as the god of their NWO is their game. It has been as such since the war in heaven concluded. Troop and equipment are being amassed in and around Israel as I wright this, reports from civilians from the countryside. It all goes back to the queen/vatican/jesuits, the queen and her ilk believing they are the true inheritors of the throne of King David.
    • http://SHWNSCHNS SHAWN
      I’M A HISTORIAN, TWO GRANDFATHERS 32 DEGREE MASONS,BOTH GRANDPAS. LIKE A POWER MARRIAGE OF SORTS. YOU ARE CORRECT AND THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT YOUR FACTS. BENJAMIN FREEDMAN WAS AT THE TREATY OF VERSAILLES AND HE QUOTED THE 3 WORLD WARS LETTER OF PIKE FREQUENTLY. HE SAID AT ONE TIME IT HUNG IN THE BRITISH MUSEUM FOR A TIME. MYRON FAGAN ALSO QUOTES IT AND HE WAS A HUNTED MAN BY THE JEWS. HE WAS A JEW BUT THEY DON’T LIKE TRUTH. I’M 12 GEN GRANDSON OF MAJ. GENERAL ISRAEL PUTNAM OF 76′ LORE. THE VATICAN IS POWERFUL BUT THE BANKER RATCHILD CALL ALL THE SHOTS. THE JESUITS WERE STARTED BY IGNIUS THE JEWISH CON MAN. THEY MURDERED THE POPE AND SAID THEY JUST JAILED HIM AND HE DIED IN PRISON….OH! THAT MAKES IT BETTER. THEY STOLE 1/3 OF ALL VATICAN LAND. THE MONEYCHANGERS CONTROLLED NAPOLEAN ALSO. THEY TELL HISTORY LIKE NAPOLEAN WAS A GOOD CATHOLIC, SOME BOOKS DO ANYWAY. HISTORY DOESN’T TALK ABOUT THE POPE BEING KILLED JUST 300 YEARS AGO. THE POPE DISBANDED THE JESUITS IN THE 1700’S DUE TO IT. THE MONEYCHANGERS CONTROL ALL OF THE SECRET SOCIETIES. THE MOTHER HOUSE IN 1717 WAS THE EYE. NEVER BE FOOLED THAT THE POPE AND JESUITS ARE THE BOSS. HAHAHA THE BANKERS RE STARTED THE JESUIT ORDER IN 1830’S. IT’S A BLACK SUN CULT. THE BLACK CUBE REPRESENTS SATURN. THE CONTROLLER, THE RESTRAINER, THE WAR GOD. WE ARE IN THE BLACK BOX THEY THINK. HAHAHAHA. RABBIS WERE THE BLACK CUBE ON THEIR HEADS AND THE MUSLIMS CIRCLE THE BLACK CUBE. THEY DON’T KNOW IT BUT THE BANKER PRIESTS OF EVIL DO. HAHAHAH THE CFR IS A PRIESTHOOD OF LIES. THAT IS THEIR MAGIC….A BIG CONCERTED CONJOB. I COULD GO ON ALL DAY, IT’S JUST SO MANY GET SOME RIGHT AND MOST GET NONE RIGHT BUT YOU HAVE EVERY WORD AS THOUGH MY GRANDPA JOSEPH MARTIN PUTNAM. HE DIED IN MARCH OF 69. GRANDMA WAS LIKE….29 YEARS YOUNGER THAN HE, AND THEY WERE MARRIED NEARLY 44 YEARS. WOW! HAHAHAHA HE WAS A DEAR SWEET MAN WHO WAS VERY CHIVALROUS. HE WAS ALSO SAD FOR THE FUTURE. PIKE WAS INSANE AND THE MONEYCHANGERS FELT LIKE HE WAS A LONG LOST SON. MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT. THE ROTHSCHILD DYNASTY IS DOING US ALL IN WITH MALICE AFORETHOUGHT. LISTEN TO FREEDMAN, EVERYTHING HE HAS. MYRON FAGAN. EUSTACE MULLINS WORKED AT THE LIBRARY OF CONGRESS. HE HAD FREE REIGN LIKE NO ONE ELSE IN HISTORY THAT IS ON THE PEOPLES SIDE. HE WENT THROUGH EVERYTHING!!! HE KNOWS BUT HAS ALWAYS BEEN CUT OFF AT THE KNEES BY THE MEDIA. HE HAS BEEN ON OVER 30 SHOWS ON THE RADIO WHERE THE INTERVIEWER WAS FIRED THAT NEXT DAY. ISN’T LIFE INSANE? HAHAHAH GO CHECK OUT ON ZIONCRIMEFACTORY THE 6 MILLION MYTH. HE SHOWS ACTUAL PHOTOSTATIC COPIES OF 90 OR MORE ARTICLES MENTIONING THE 6MIL NUMBER BEFORE THE WAR. SOME ARE BEFORE 1900. I THINK THEY HAVE 1ST CENTURY MINDSET BUT THEY ALSO DON’T MIND MURDERING. IN FACT. IT’S THEIR DOCTRINE.
      • Keelan Balderson
        Sure you are Shawn…what a load of unsourced crap.
        • Sean Torres
          In all caps as well lol. Poor guy If I were you I would have deleted this one. Kudos for not!
    • http://cockroachalley.com Joseph Northpal
      real Jews ???? Kennenites/Edomites, 6-Million” story nothing but a Cabbalistic prophecy. Isreal is a people not a place of rocks and sand. That was the purpose of the new covenant with the Israelites. Nothing to do with those bastardized tribes who now call themselves “jews” hoping illiterate dummies will transpose that in to Judah for them.
• jesse
  And promoting Freemasonry now ?
  I understand that worshipers of Lucifer have to support each other.
  • jimmy
    This looks like another of those anyone but the Jews website. Complete baloney hilarious blaming “nazi catholics” ha ha ha. If you want real truth visit realzionistnews.com and incogman.com.
    David Icke, Alex Jones and all the other bull dusters are Israeli disinfo agents wake up people what part of it’s the Jews don’t you understand?
    • Keelan Balderson
      You look like one of those everything is the Jews people
      • Jimmy
        If the shoe fits….
        • Jimmy
          The Protocols of zion and Pikes letters are all true.
        • Keelan Balderson
          There is not one source to corroberate Pike’s letter; there is no letter, its just something somebody wrote in a book and others quoted as a letter.
      • Sean Torres
        Here we agree somewhat the conspiracy is actually Satanic and Judaism I feel is for the most part a very beautiful religion. I love the idea of Purim as a holiday! though that word Jew. Now that is interesting. It is fairly young word etymologically….wonder why…
  • Jimmy
    The Jews, Israelis are realising the game is up it is becoming clearer every day the Jewish house of cards (lies) is falling down and they are trying to fight back on the internet with an avalanche of phony “truth” sites that pump pure disinformation designed to steer people away from “Israel”
    Lets see if you allow all these Youtube and vimeo videos to be posted?
    youtube.com/watch?v=eWuAH3P9s1k
    vimeo.com/44402596
    youtube.com/watch?v=CsrPt-enplw&feature=related
    youtube.com/watch?v=x80vccXPbb0
    youtube.com/watch?v=0ugVxGQ_sKc&feature=related
    vimeo.com/45430216
    youtube.com/watch?v=kVKGRB3cygg&feature=related
  • Jimmy
    Pikes letters are the truth and we can see zonist controlled countries of Britain, America, europe are ratcheting up the propaganda over the last decade.
    Anybody who believes 9/11 and the 7/7 London bombings were done by Muslims is a complete and utter cretin
    youtube.com/watch?v=kwyzpzEgUWE
  • Jimmy
    Ha ha ha looks like truth eh? that is why you refuse to post my other comments?
• Jimmy
  To your credit you did post all my comments, most impressed.
  As regards Pikes letters, what we know is this, there has been a constant and relentless stream of false flag events done by Israeli Mossad with the help of Freemason patsy’s of Israel western intelligence agencies like MI5 and CIA.
  The Jewish run western press is also in constant smear mode against muslims and Arabs. Israel by contrast is handled with kid gloves and only show critcism is allowed and then immediately followed up by Israels point of view.
  Israel has bombed slaughtered thousands of Palestinians and has ethnically cleansed large swathes of land for Jews who have no historic claim to Palestine whatsoever. Over 80% of people who call themselves Jews today are of Khazar tribes descent from the time of King Bulan in 740AD. Israels crimes against humanity completely ignored.
  All the leaders deposed in the Arab spring of 2011 were stable long term leaders who would not tolerate muslim radicals, Ghadaffi, Mubarak etc.
  Assad is stable leader like his father was, yet the zionist controlled governments in the west actively used their militarys to attack these governments why???
  In the years to come all these governments will become radical islamic countries with the help and funding of Mossand, CIA and MI5.
  The Hegelian table for war is set and the zionist bankers can use it to introduce more laws destroying the few scraps of freedom we have left.
  They will also use it to complete the jewish enslavement of the world and to load us up with more debt. Not to mention the complete detruction of the white Christian nation, which Jews hate.
  Israel attacked the USS Liberty to provoke US to attack Egypt in a false flag attack.
  Israeli Mossad did 9/11 to start this global war on Muslims.
  Israeli Mossad did 7/7 in London because growing protests against war in Iraq had to be silenced.
  It was actively covered up by the Freemason police and military structures who are under the control of Jews.
  I don’t need Pikes letters to tell me about a coming war with Islam and Arabs I can see it happening before my eyes. The zionist controlled west demands it wether muslims will want it or not they are getting it! The people are being played like fools.
  Thank you.
  • Jesse
    I like what you did here, Jimmy. I also don’t need those letters to tell me what is going on. Besides, if that letter is true, than that proves that some organisations work an agenda and not that Albert Pike had some foreknowledge. An interesting book to read is ‘Descend into Slavery’ by Des Griffin. Gives you a good insight of what is going on in our day. Also recommendable is ‘The Grand Chessboard’ by Zbigniew Brzezinski, but you might already have read that. Thanks for your reaction!
    • Sean Torres
      the grand chessboard is a must read i concur…
    • Sam Spade
      Brzezinski is a Marxist propagandist, anything that comes out of his mouth is the same.
• David S
  (Readers who argue that the terms Nazism and Zionism were not known in 1871 should remember that the Illuminati invented both these movements. In addition, Communism as an ideology, and as a coined phrase, originates in France during the Revolution. In 1785, Restif coined the phrase four years before revolution broke out. Restif and Babeuf, in turn, were influenced by Rousseau – as was the most famous conspirator of them all, Adam Weishaupt.)
  • Sam Spade
    That’s another youtube/bloggy Alex Jones lie. Communism ideology came from Moses Hess, founding father of European Zionism. Nazism arose after the Bavarian Soviet Republic took control and Nationalist gangs fought back. It started with 7 guys in a pub, and starving dieing Germans embraced the first opposing ideology to Communism. The Thule was based of off popular esoteric writing in a magazine and was their version after they shut down all the Freemasons. The Illuminati were dedicated to the end of the Church (Catholic), the spreading of Christian morality, and the destruction of State power, which at the time was Monarchies. They were later made into a powerful secret world cabal by a JESUIT writer and anti-semite who feared Jacobites and Liberty from “Throne and Alter”. And again by American Federalists, and AGAIN by the John Birtch Society who were afraid to say “jews” while talking about American Communism (Progressive, Neo-Liberals, and Neo-Conservatives)
    READ A BOOK FOR GOD SAKES!
• Terry Melanson
  “The second book cited by Cardinal Rodriguez was Le Diable au XIXème Siècle …”
  No, it’s the first book and *the* source of the “letter.” Rodriguez was wrong on the date. Taxil was 1894, while Margiotta was a year later and only briefly summarizes the “letter,” as the above-quoted, clunky, Google machine translation reveals. In fact, the whole premise of Margiotta’s book is the Taxil Hoax in toto. The latter made up that Palladism shtick as well as his so-called informant, Satanic harlot/whore Diana Vaughan. Margiotta was following his lead: Palladism *is* the hoax, with Pike as its linchpin.
  Since you’re not versed in French, in order to gain a handle on the scope of it, A. E. Waite’s debunking “Devil-Worship in France” is required reading.
• Tony
  I find it funny that debunkers like to use little details to try and make you think its all false. The one thing that can’t be debunked is the time line of when this letter was first appeared which leaves the question of if it was written its time of disclosure with its accuracy to this point would make it the most comprehensive disclosure of future events to this time no matter who wrote it. Time is the keeper of the truth follow a time line and the truth that everyone is looking for will be presented.
  • Keelan Balderson
    @Tony the “letter” never was published before the events, other than the 3rd world war, and we’re still waiting for that one. You didn’t even read the article.
    • ash
      i mean the document is real, it was up in the museum before it was taken down.
      the sun, it ensures life on our planet, but i believe it is not real
      • Keelan Balderson
        Nope it never was.
• Paul Gardner
  Good to see you approaching stories like this with your own mind, Keelan, and going where the evidence takes you.
  There are far too many who just uncritically accept all “alternative” stories simply because they are “alternative”. People like that are just changing one mind prison for another.
  If the evidence doesn’t stack up, we shouldn’t be afraid to say so.
  • Keelan Balderson
    I totally agree and appreciate the comment.
    • Daniel Ruggiero
      A war between the Jews and Muslims wouldn’t be a hard one to predict. Why we put them so close together is beyond me. You should never put your kids on the same naughty step :)
• Andrew Helm
  I do suspect the letter as hoax but I will also mention that this page tries to suggest Illuminati may not exist. Illuminati is an Entity and consists of Rothschilds related to Brit Royalty through marriage, Rockefeller and many elite bloodlines around the world. Google – Why Illuminati created the Masonic state of Israel – And – U.S Congress report 1940 British Israel world Gov
  • turtle
    Yes. This is the subtlety of the takeaway from this.
    The authenticity of this one letter is in many ways irrelevant. Probably safer simply not to quote it as it becomes to easy to discredit the rest of the conspiracy revelation. There are more than enough proven facts.
• Mick
  After having read your article and all the comments that followed, I just have one question: why do you think the big names in alternative media (i.e. Icke, Freeman, Weidner, Maxwell, etc) have overlooked this? Or if they know, then why do they continue to espouse it? I spend a great deal of time listening to these guys via podcasts and videos with high expectations that they have done their thorough research, but you present a very convincing side to this particular story. Thanks for your contribution in truth seeking, I’m glad I found this page.
  • Keelan Balderson
    I don’t think it’s a deliberate thing that they’re necessarily trying to deceive, it’s likely just confirmation bias. It fits their other research and world view so they don’t push too far in authenticating it. I think Icke eventually admitted it may be a fraud, but he hasn’t quite grasped that it was never written before the events even if it was a fraud.
    I guess this hammers home Icke’s caveat “don’t blindly believe what I’m saying, research it for yourself”.
    • Mick
      Thank you, I tend to agree. There is SO MUCH information to learn, it can really get overwhelming at times. I applaud you on everything you do.
• Mary Geisler
  There is so much to say on this issue. Benjamin Freedman was first of all giving reference to a Third World War beginning, but he never stated that the United States could win it (the U.S.A. can’t) and he also never gave reference to the Middle East, for the exception of the Zionists.
  Albert Pike in my opinion is a drama queen (queen … yes … that is correct … not king). He helped instigate the American Civil War in which he was planning and hoping for the South to win. Even though the Civil War was unnecessary and what the South was having to go through, Albert Pike’s “dream” never came true. Therefore, he is incompetent to begin with and those predictions of his were within 8 years of Civil War beginning and he’s “supposedly” predicting this 100 years in advance. That is very hard to imagine to have come from someone that can’t even predict 8 years into the future, much less 100 years.
  “Conspiracy theorists” in my terminology are skeptical human beings with too much time on their hands. Zionism was not a word until the last 19th century and there is no proof the Zionists that came up with that word had any affiliation whatsoever with this nonsense. Nazism was also not a word until after the appalling first World War. There’s even “conspiracy theories” that Hitler was using Rothschild money to kill Jews … how insane is that? They also claim that Martin Luther and John Calvin were “their” men when both of these Protestant reformers were “not” for Zionists at all. In fact, Martin Luther stated that if they ever did get what they wanted, they would reject their “demonic Messiah” as well as our Messiah and it would be 7 times worse for them than their exile in 72 by Vespasian.
  This is politically incorrect and that’s fine. Before the Protestant Movement, there were some major conflicts going on and it had nothing to do with Zionism. What the reformers requests were: 1) homes were at that time in history not allowed to have Bibles and had to go directly to Church clergy members, in which anyone could learn Latin (that’s all a thing of the past), 2) people were wanting Bibles and also in their own language (Wycliffe was the first to translate into the English language), 3) people were majorly concerned about the selling of indulgences and papal infallacy. That’s all it was and then people make this big deal out of it because they’re ignorant, just as Albert Pike is/was.
  What I am about to say next is a simple guess because I was not alive in 1871 obviously. Pike did give a direct quote in 1871 to unleash the Atheists and Nihilists. He did say that, but the rest to me is hogwash. As far as I am concerned and when this hoax is over, they are going to be the ones that are going to be worshipping Barney, the talking dinosaur.
  People believe anything they hear, but they don’t accept truth when truth is actually given to them. So the “unleashing” has already occurred, thank you very much. People are so skeptical. People talk before they think and to my knowledge, I do not believe that people even engage in critical thinking anymore.
  While it is true that this world is going to see a Third World War and while it is true that there is a “conspiracy” of Freemasons that are not Christian at all against the Catholic Church, the Protestants stand just as firmly behind God (not the jealous one, but the true one) and Jesus Christ and the Protestants are probably going to be harder to deal with for these “conspirators” because they don’t need a pope to lead the Christian Church. That was “actually” the point of the Protestant Movement. The leader for the Protestants is only Christ.
  These “conspirators” think they have a chance against the Protestants as well? First of all, they can’t destroy the Catholic Church … if the Catholic Church does collapse, it will be an internal fall and the faith is very fixated and has been that way with minor adaptions to fit the time. As far as the Protestants go, the Protestants did have “to fight” to break away to practice Christianity without the noted things above that even the Catholic Church later adopted to. So the fight in the dog are the Protestants, while these “conspirators” actually think that they’re smart.
  If these “Luciferians” or whatever they are called or call themselves actually grew a pair, then they would have fought “Protestant-style.” But they didn’t and there is a reason for that. While it can go on for forever on this topic and it most certainly can, there is something to point out.
  Let’s say for the sake of the argument that these people do get what they want. Let’s for exactly one minute try to make an assertion that they could be correct (which they aren’t). Vampires do not prey on other vampires. They would not be able to eat or live, and the reason is because of the attributes for the standard of living for vampires. So if that ever were to happen, the vampires would be forced to fight other vampires and that doesn’t happen. Therefore, by that statement alone, it’s hog-wash and all of this is something to just get you stirred up.
  If the Catholic Church was going to be destroyed, it would have occurred in the 16th century, but the Protestants were not seeking to destroy Catholicism (otherwise it would be gone if anyone knows anything about the League of Cognac). It was only a reform that did go crazy there for awhile. There is no doubt in my mind that later people did become involved in this movement for their purposes that had absolutely nothing to do with Christianity whatsoever. However, the latter are in control and they don’t even know what it’s like to even fight. Now it is time to discuss the “Three World Wars.”
  The first World War actually began in the middle East (we are not referring to the envision of the third world war), which was provoked by the Young Turks that paid a Serbian to assassinate Archduke Ferdinand. Each group had to choose sides and the Russian Czars were actually overthrown before World War I was even over. The war was still going on. Therefore, that is complete hog-wash. And upon the completion of World War I, the Arabic lands were subdivided out into multiple nationalities.
  The second world war was to destroy Nazism (which wasn’t even a word until after the first World War was over). Nazism is a “movement against Zionism.” Unfortunately, it all came down to money. Everyone thinks that the Germans were “out to get the Jews.” Not a single hair was put on a Jewish head until 1938, which was 5 years after the Zionists, who are Jewish and also most notably called the Elite, declared war on Germany by means of a boycott because Germany was so upset over Germans Jews selling them out to England to lose World War I. This was not over religion; this was entirely political. Nazism is clearly not destroyed; they just don’t use that particular word anymore and all it means is to boycott Zionism; it’s terminology in today’s time is “anti-Zionists.” The only thing that happened was a “name change,” imagine that. In fact, anti-Zionism is even more world-wide spread than it was in the 1930s.
  Concerning the envision of World War III, it is so broad to where it could be considered equivalent to astrology. What should be meant by that is that it could give a very broad description and upon the person’s interpretation, it could mean anything. That doesn’t sound very descriptive. Now if it were to say something else, then it could sound more credible. If they were to destroy the Middle East, all of their “precious oil” is gone. Concerning Israel, Israel has gone under attack in both 72 AD by Vespasian and then 532 AD by Justinian I, who was furious with those that sought to destroy Rome and led the charge to the fall of Rome (476 AD). So Israel has already been sacked plenty of times in history and they don’t want you to know that.
  So if they are trying to destroy the Catholic Church (I am a Protestant), but I deeply respect the Catholic Church for giving Christianity the initial foundation of course. Any Christian should. They can’t destroy a person’s faith. They can break your bones; they can starve you to death; they can do a lot of things; but what they can’t do to a person is what is inside of that person. The only disillusion that I am seeing here are conspiracy theorists that are brainwashed, uneducated, misinformed, and those will actually be the ones to lead the revolt when the false becomes truth finally and what they claim to be truth will then be acknowledged to be false. People can believe whatever they want for all I am concerned.
  Concerning Lucifer, that is what the Romans believed in. Where was their Lucifer when they marched back into Rome in 455 and ended up killing each other off by 476? Where was their Lucifer that they depend so much on? They were actually, as every historian knows this, disillusioned themselves to where they wiped themselves out by 476 and the power was then given back to the European people under Odovacer.
  So while people are so concerned about this, think about what I just wrote. Think about it and use your brain instead of the words out of someone else’s mouth, including my own by the way. This includes me. The point is that while it is good to think about matters and to realize certain things, as people are hardly ever told every detail, people are so skeptical and people have this illusion that the world is out to get them. For these people, please find yourself.
  • Keelan Balderson
    Thanks you for a well thought out and lengthy comment. I won’t pretend to understand it all, but it’s of much more value than “no the letter was real” crap.
  • R.C. Christian
    This entire thread is very interesting and I find it difficult to come to my own conclusion about the matter for various reasons that I don’t feel like getting into here. However, I’d like to point out an enormous error that may be intentional or may not, that was stated by Mary in one of the first comments above. Nazism does not mean “a movement against Zionism.” It has nothing to do with the word “Zionism” so don’t let the “Z” in the word make that connection for you. The Nazi movement was the National Socialist Movement in Germany. The German word for it is Nationalsozialismus, which is where the term Nazi gets its name.
    Just thought I’d throw in my two cents. Thank you all for the read.
  • Allen Smith
    Oh my God, can anyone decrypt this mass of muddled, disconnected phrases and run-on sentences? I read her comment four times and still found nothing sensible. She likes to give the impression that she knows about history by dropping a lot of names but seems incapable of forming complete, sensible sentences. Mary, here’s a tip: Using an over-abundance of words and useless phrases as filler does not lend credence to your argument. Short, concise sentences get the job done.
  • Sam Spade
    1. Nazis (a Bolshivik slur) was not an anti-Zionist movement. They were called “National Socialists”, never NAZIS. And it was a movement against International Socialism, which rules the world today. In fact, the German Zionist Council did work with the National Socialist party to establish Israel but that doesn’t mean they wanted a genocide or world war. Hard-core Marxist Jews are still anti-Israel to this day in many ways, this should tell you something
    2. Lucifer was a star, venus in the morning. Romans did not worship gods the mindless way that Protesting Roman Christians or Catholic Christians worship “GD” or the deity of Christ. Roman gods were lessons in science, culture/morals, and yes starlight navigation.
    Both of these so called “Christian” groups started out of slave cults and became State-cults that destroyed the teachings of Jesus.
    3. It is not true that the world “has to see WW3”. All of these Egyptian cults from Judaism, to Muslims, to so called “Christians” want an apocalypse so they can have their utopia. It’s sickening and crazy
• RothschildConspiracyNut
  It seems your article has neither proved nor disproved whether Pike’s letter is authentic. All you have used is strong-man arguments and “acceptable limits to logic” to attempt to disprove the plausibility of this letter.
  GO away and find some real evidence that he DIDNT write it…rather than “whats the chance” type arguments..
  • Johann
    How do you prove a negative, dimwit?
    • Helmuth the Elder
      Atheists seem to have no problem with this.
• Sean Torres
  I didnt read the entire article but I believe the answer to the original source for the text would ultimately be an esoteric version of morals and dogma which is not widely shared…
  sorry nice try…
  try harder…
  • Keelan Balderson
    “I didnt read the entire article” “try harder”
    No YOU try harder.
    If you get a copy of that fake book you just made up, send it my way.
    • Sean Torres
      Sir I wish I could I read the first few paragraphs and saw where it was leading…Basically the problem I am dealing with is similar to yours…this is hidden knowledge…so it isn’t easy to just share…Is it difficult…yes! I think you got offended which is sad. I was giving advice Mr. Balderson. Sincerely. Those esoteric versions are floating around. If I can find one I assure you I will share…Doc Marquis has one maybe request privilege to have him scan a pdf version for you?
      By the way lay off the caffeine you might be a nicer person that way!
      If you don’t see the signs all around you you frankly are blind at this point. Something is up. Whether you think Pike’s letter is a fraud or not. I had something similar happen to me when researching the protocols of zion. Either way you cut it those protocols are made by an evil mind. Whether it was zionists or russian forgers who knows Mr. Balderson who knows but one thing is for sure for either myself or yourself to figure it all out you would have to try harder…I know I am trying hard as I can…
      In your case if an article is not leading to a proper refutable conclusion well it isn’t finished I respectfully say to you…though I feel healthy debate and discussion is a good thing mind you…
      Also I gave you a lead…next time say thank you Mr. Torres…
      • Keelan Balderson
        Stop rambling
        “Whether you think Pike’s letter is a fraud or not.”
        This is the only issue we’re dealing with here.
        Prove it’s real. Find an original source. If not, you’re just spinning your wheels to protect your world view. Cognitive dissonance at its best.
        • Sean Torres
          I don’t think you understand the occult and esoteric nature of the societies Pike belonged to. I type this respectfully.
          If you find that succinct sentence a ramble I cannot help you and could never help you. No one can frankly…
        • Keelan Balderson
          You don’t type it respectfully, you type it from blind arrogance, and as a way to cloud the debate.
          And You’d be surprised how much I’ve read about such matters. However I know how to engage my critical thinking skills.
          Lets strip away the rhetoric. There’s no evidence Pike wrote the “letter”, so stop pretending there is.
          It’s not hidden away in some mystical alternate version of his book (which you can’t provide), it’s just a lie.
        • Sean Torres
          I try to find good in all people. What I will say is this you do allow people to post their comments without censoring them like many sites these days do which I find quite telling. I am not surprised you have read alot. The conspiracy is certainly vast.
          Though may I respectfully say you are not very pleasant. I feel bad for you on a personal level. Debates with people who cannot be respectful of opinions that are contrary to their own are not constructive.
        • snchs
          There is too evidence. It is documented to have been called a hoax when it was just 8 years old. It once hung in the British Museum. Reference Benjamin Freedman speech at the Willard Hotel and/or Myron Fagan’s, The CFR in America. The two best speeches of the 20th Century……A.D. You never leave up and good comments because your site would be packed…..just to catch how we’re destroying your lies. hahahahaha. Get used to it.
        • Sean Torres
          Actually I disagree he is fair. Only one I have encountered he is fair and though has a different opinion I respect that he allows open and honest debate.
    • saris1
      The letter was published by a man named William Guy Carr, if it was a complete hoax than this man was quite gifted with an uncanny sense for the geopolitical. He died in 1959 40 years before the events of September 11.
      • Keelan Balderson
        No, William Guy Carr paraphrased a letter he’d never seen, which he sourced from another book which made up that the letter was on show in a museum, a book which in turn traces back to a self professed hoax.
        And I’d argue that Jews vs Arabs was quite a common geopolitical issue in Carr’s lifetime, nothing uncanny about it.
  • Sam Spade
    I’ve read Morals and Dogma as a historian with interest in this modern propaganda. It’s just a “new age” compilation book mixed with Freemason mythos; almost like a cheap Joseph Campbell. The New Age movement had just become popular in Pike’s time. It’s not even up to par with what early International Socialists base their real doctrine from like Hegel, Moses Hess, Marx or even what National Socialists were inspired by like Friedrich Nietzsche, and even Jack London (Henry Ford). You need to grow up a little and learn how to do academic-level research.
    • Sean Torres
      I think when people tell other people to “grow up” they may want to look inward a bit. With that said. Point of my post is that you may not have received the same copy a 33rd degree mason would. Which should cause you to start questioning your precious “Academia”. I gotta be honest as someone who was dean’s list and honor’s society at my uni I really really don’t have much respect for someone who is grounded in the mainstream. I just know about too many messy things (Waco, Ruby Ridge, Clinton/Minas connection etc). A certain Jefferson quote comes to mind about you…
      “The cornerstone of democracy rests on the foundation of an educated electorate.”
      I feel that while you might call yourself educated you might actually be indoctrinated. Into what? Mainstream or modern propaganda…
      So Marx was inspired? Or was he simply plagiarizing? Honestly Mr Spade (if that is even your real name) wouldn’t it be a bit embarrassing if I were to point out that the manifesto is actually plagiarized? Since I am so beneath you it couldn’t be possible that I know more than you? Gasp! Hegel dialectic is used yes yes. Though by whom? Is it the same cabal you dispute the existence of?? Honestly your comment is laughable. Though I will say this you know of some truth. I think where you fail is in abstract thought. Your knowledge is too wrote…
      Though they really don’t teach critical thinking in the American academia these days huh?
      Bah off to the camps with you I doubt you are a real person anyway just a bot or paid partisan trust me it will not buy you freedom or a future….
      • Sam Spade
        haha, Deans list? Seriously, that means something to your world view? It’s time you grow up, because you make accusations with NOTHING to back it up but more vague accusations. It’s in your words, “respect for the mainstream”, this is pop-culture talk. And this is pop-culture research because I’ve heard the Marx was a fraud and Hitler was a fraud planted by the alien wizards Satanists Illuminati theories before.
        Simple minded lazy people need all powerful unifying theory or life is no longer black and white but shades for grey. Hitler’s words are not that brilliant and not unrecognizable. His background of watching how the world works came after WW1, when Bavaria became a Soviet Republic and his and home were destroyed. Marx’s poetry, his personal letters to Engels, all point to a man attempting to establish an economic pyramid scheme to change what he hated about this world, to control it’s fate through pseudoscience and revelry, and Moses Hess (founder of European Zionism and Communism) came along with a great idea for him. It all ads up if you DO YOUR HOMEWORK because educations is NOT GIVEN, it is EARNED.
        National Socailism and Fascism too stood against everything the Freemasons and International Socialists stood for, it was a virus implanted in their society world views which they work VERY HARD to propagate and maintain. This is why every time you hear the word Fascism it’s referring to evil, Hitler as the great Satan. Freemasons (unlike Communists) are very open about their beliefs as that’s how they recruit. It’s a cult of ideas, not of brute force or charitable promises like Catholicism is. If there is an inner (Dan Brown inspired) sanctum with the “real books”
        it doesn’t matter because no one who says there is can be trusted,
        that’s not how you do research — or even detective work.
        But if you want to pretend it’s all conspiracy that only mentally disturbed people can understand like Bill Cooper or David Icke, or John Birtch propagandists like Alex Jones, then go ahead and play with the kids in the sand box.
        But if you want to learn, then go to the material sources and SEE IF THEY AD UP to HISTORY. This Pike letter does not. Even the bible can be translated using a massoratic scholarly work and an unrevised Strong’s Concordance. Maybe you’ll never get the true source but it’s closer than youtube videos and blogs, and gives you a better understanding when you do find the ‘light’ so to speak
        • Sean Torres
          Gee alot of sound and fury signifying again much truth but since it is not tempered…seriously sir you sound very intelligent but also pompous and arrogant as well, With that said. I merely brought up my academic past to say hey been there done that it just wasn’t education it was sorry mainstream propaganda or indoctrination. Honestly my true learning occurred once I left academia with that said….
          Ok you went all over the place here honestly and some stuff I won’t address (cause it simply should not have been brought up by you had nothing to do with original point agitator?) but I will address others. Look into stuff like Anthony C. Sutton or The Shadow of Hermes. Soviet Union was basically a creation of the secret societies (I would go further and add to this Hitler regime). Sad to say. In terms of the Marxist plagiarism uh no sir one as educated as you should realize plagiarism is plagiarism if we compare passages of different writers and they match nearly identically then it is a hack job and that is what the manifesto is. I am sure Marx believed in what he was writing but as you say “inspired” well uh no cause those ideas and in fact the very words predated his writing,
          I totally agree with you that one must do their homework and that knowledge (notice i corrected this) is earned and not given. It is time to practice what you are blindly preaching Mr. Spade. Also lay off the caffeine it’s making you a jerk boss. Respectfully.
        • Sam Spade
          See this is what I’m talking about. You’re being worked by aging New Left professors who attempt to explain away the failures of the past by blaming it all on the tyranny “corporatism”. It’s always going to be a narrative of Fascist (elite) with these people, so they can introduce more of the same International global Socialism. Case in point, Bush vs Obama: same monster different mask, false promises, false allegiances, but they are all from families and mentors that professionally promoted Leftist Socialism (see Bush family and their priesthood in Christian Marxism/Christian Socialism, see his grandfather vs McCarthy and the IRS, NWO). It’s game theory; and it’s classic Marxism — it’s called “controlling the opposition”.
          Anthony C. is creating a false narrative to say that the peoples revolution and the ‘beauties of Socialism’ never occurred because it was run by corporate elite… his reasons, because they sold them things. Yes, Jewish bankers financed revolutions, so what? That’s just called war profiteering, it doesn’t take a cabal Satanic wizards elite to do it. Read your history, it’s always done because “an army moves on its stomach” and someone has to pay.
          Anthony C. doesn’t admit to wanting International Socialism?? Noam Chomsky tells the same false corporate narrative and claims he wants a ‘nicer’ world government for the people, hahaha.
          Demonize the evil dead so you can move on with their Revolution. Like I said, you have to earn an education, not receive it from people who are by trade liars and professional propagandists. Maybe we can re-start Nazism by claiming Hitler was a homosexual drug addict and a corporate Jew?
          If it were all Skulls and Jesuits there wouldn’t be so many Hollywood produced movies about it with massive financial backing, I promise ;)
          Ever see a movie about other religious cabal groups like how Jews invented and ran the: African slave trade/diamond trade, international credit issuing organizations, creation of the American and Russian mob, Murder inc, Vegas/Atlantic city/Cuba casinos, the Communist revolutionary groups all over the world, Anarchist revolutions in Spain and Latin America, their dealings with Moa in China, J Edger Hoover’s real suspicions, their creation of Nukes/ nuclear arms race and MAD, JFK’s fight against Israel’s nuke programs, RFK’s fight with the original AIPAC and the CIA Dulles brothers (Surhan Surhan), the invention of Hollywood and personal monopoly over Russian/British/Canadian/Middle Eastern MEDIA, the invention of “propaganda” (Freud) and “media relations”?
          NO, you won’t ever see a movie on that. So just keep chasing men in dark cloaks.
          Maybe I have my information WRONG but Historical research and truth seeking is just like being a detective: you have to interview all the witnesses, all the points of view and material evidence, not just read it out of some guys books that his University helped get published over and over again… This is how information is controlled, lazy students. You can’t blame it all on pedophiles in the Catholic church. They can barely hold their organization together at this point. And as Voltaire once said, ““To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” Freemasons and Christians and Nazis and Fascist are either really generous about allowing all of Hollywood and Alex Jones like conspiracy zealots to demonize them at every turn, on every media outlet, or they’re just in control of true power. Think about it.
          I know you’re tying to sound witty, but the over-written bourgeois insults just let me know you’ve been hanging out with too many hipsters. It’s time to grow up or shut up, because eventually you’re going to be another aging hippy who says things like “mainstream” “tune in and tune out”… The information is still free and out there, TAKE IT while you can.
        • Sean Torres
          Ok here is a news flash Mr. Spade if that is your real name. I agree with most of what you said here. Sadly it doesnt have much to do with my previous reply (stay on target). I completely agree with the whole leftist prof bit which is why I made my previous comments about academia, I think you are too quick to dismiss Sutton simply for his conclusion. He did alot of good legwork on the issues involved. Though I also disagree with his conclusions. I am well aware of sirhan sirhan and dulles. Though we are sooo far away from my original issue with you. If Marx was plagiarizing then he can’t be inspired ok. I also whole heartedly agree we don’t have much time to research such things and gasp I feel the historical record as is has been edited. Just like Blair describes in 1984
          I think they killed Turing and Patton and Washington for that matter..
          I am not a lazy thinker….
          Mr. Spade you have to stop judging all the other intellectuals by the ones you have met before…just saying. I can tell you are intelligent. Just take it down a notch…
          It is not all skull and jesuits (i said that???when did i say that???) buuuut those societies are a part of many involved as well as some notable Asian ones. Hollywood is totally controlled by them and as far as the references in film it is counting coup basically laughing at the sheeple who don’t get it but perhaps i reveal too much for you that is a big thing to deduce and takes time…
          I don’t like explaining the main narrative as mainstream but it is best i got it is certainly a filtered view most get can we agree there?
          So basically you blame the Jews for everything or is that just a simplistic take? I consider the puppet masters satanic honestly they are not following Judaism. Funny word that word Jew fairly young etymologically. Oh well Mr. Spade nice chatting really. Shame you ignore my points. I do address yours. Also tone down the tangents a tad though I do like them (I gave some of my own) but for simplicity sake..Ciao
        • Sam Spade
          The insanity of thinking Jesuit Catholic Satanists control Hollywood. I just don’t know what to say to that being someone who grew up in Hollywood. Hollywood is controlled by Marxist Jews, in ever aspect, with no need to become Illuminati wizards because they already have a great network that is loyal, wealthy, and strong. They are very proud of this and make documentaries and even jokes about it all the time on TV. And if they need to take care of someone, they finance and organize the Russian and American mob too. Once again, my opinion on that is from experience rather than having to google some conspiracy nuts NWO opinions. All these freemason conspiracies are frankly, out of date…
          The Freemason dream of liberal democracies have given way to International Socialism; a world without boarder and without National character which will soon become world totalitarianism. It needs no cabal, the majority cries out for it now. And the true religion of this age isn’t Christianity or Satanism, it is Cultural Marxism.
        • Sean Torres
          well Mr. Spade here we have some agreement and some matters of contention. I feel the way communism/socialism/marxism is used is damaging to humanity. I love a film called in the shadow of hermes. Do check it out. But I also feel that film points out an important point.
          THE MOLECH WORSHIP
          It is everywhere sir at those levels. I am sorry. I am not blind to their symbology.
          NOR THE SATANIC CABAL!
          You can see it in movies. In the layout of washington D.C. on the dollar bill itself and I could go on and on…
          So no I will not blame the JEW. He has suffered enough! Killed by his own people in many cases even. When it is men who were part of cabals and secret societies. I am sorry…It is self evident. In my view it is you who has the burden…the moment jackie jumped to the back of the limo after jack got his head blown off…just saying the proof that there are such cabal elements are there for all if they dig and recognize their symbology…masons were a society that was infiltrated and indoctrinated and is now merely a tool one of many similar societies throughtout the world…
        • Sam Spade
          Yeah because Freemason imagery is fun. It’s fun to use an all seeing eye for evil, like it was fun to use it for good in early America as the “eye of providence”.
          See Leon Trotsky’s opinion on Freemason in his book “My Life”. He makes fun of them, haha. It’s pretty good.
          Maybe you’re part of some church, I don’t know. But according to mass psychology you have to create a vague enemy to rally the common people around. But with educated people you need to create a sort of intellectual virus or they won’t buy into it. Illuminati, lizards, aliens or magic devils are for the stupid masses.
          The “Jew” is not a false thing. It’s just they protect their own mafias and murderous behaviors. It’s a fatal flaw and caused by insecurity within the religions of Judaism. I’m not saying they’re a bad people, I like Jewish people myself. I’m saying they murdered 10 times more ‘Aryans’ and Christians than the Nazis murdered ANYONE; long before Hitler was old enough to even hold a gun. I’m saying they spread anti-intellectualism because of certain insecure values (ie, Cultural Marxism and nepotism). Other than that, they’re a people to be respected.
          I’m saying Marxist Jews were smart and capable enough to cause M.A.D. and invent mass psychology and game theory and the term propaganda. Marxism is the real evil you people are all chasing and blaming for your troubles. The evil rich people are protected by what Marx called a “planned economy” not any kind of Fascism, not Albert Pike Satanism. Satanists are life long teenagers with an axe to bare. Like the “South Park” Goth kids, haha. They always have been, they always will be. Although the Church of Satan was started under a military intelligence program to see how many people like you they could excite ;)
        • Sean Torres
          I hear what you are saying i do. You seem to be a literalist. In the sense that you feel the international jew is to blame for all the worlds ills. While they are often scapegoated I feel this view of world oppression of humankind is not realistic. Are we to blame the jew for the man who starves in Asia? Africa? No no. While it is an international cabal it is not merely a jewish one. That is a bit simplistic. I do understand why you feel the way you do though. A spade. Have you ever seen the greatest story never told? 6hr good stuff…
          tell me?
          Do you believe in evolution? Do you not believe you have a soul or spirit?
          Of course what you are forgetting are things like the bohemian grove or the layout of Washington DC or imagery on the bill i could go on and on about signs that religions other than Judaism are at the very least at play
          fuck communism hopefully here we agree…
          discounting the existence of satanic forces is silly may i recommend reviewing some stuff like Al Neal or Ted Gunderson how about the mother of darkness castle…..you don’t have to dig too far spade…i tip my hat to ya…
        • Sam Spade
          I blame belief system for the worlds ills. Otherwise we would simply fix it. You do know that “scapegoat” is a biblical term right?
          You know like the Holocaust is yiddish for “the sacrifice”. Who was Ann Frank sacrificed for again?
          When you’re socially programmed, you use indoctrination terms like “scapegoating”. And you’re definitely programmed by some elements of mass psychology… something the Jewish community practically invented (see: Edward Bernays).
          Jews are not scapegoated. They are NOT sacrificial lambs. And they murdered so many more millions and millions before Stalin or Hitler…. the so called Holocaust was just a reaction to this behavior. Hitler was a reaction, not a planned event. Communists had taken over Bavaria (Soviet Bavaria Republic) and were planning on doing the same thing there. Him and 7 other soldiers decided to take a stand. Whatever happen afterwards, that’s how it went down to anyone willing to learn about historical data and not chase ghosts and propaganda.
          Social egalitarianism is responsible for massive starvation in Africa/Asia (a Jewish invention). We feed people, cure their natural diseases, and give them technology to keep up their populations. But these people are not ready for this responsibility. The proof is in their actions. They keep humping and not feeding their babies, while flies at eat them. You will never see this happen over and over for decades and decades in amongst an advance peoples. We messed with nature out of some romantic ideals, and now nature is overwhelmed. And nature will probably spawn more diseases out of this human incubator that will level things out, then you can blame it all on the Illuminati Aryan aliens… Even the Bible warns of this behavior.
          Jews run the diamond trade out of Africa, and were the biggest slave
          traders during the slave trade. And many African American historians
          aren’t afraid to say it. Nelson Madela’s Communist regime has killed 30 times more people now than ALL OF APARTHEID had. And guess who set that system up? Take a wild guess. Ill give you a hint, it wasn’t Lord Voldemort.
          Do you know what a Bohemian is? If you did, you would understand why these pre-hippies were playing at hedonism. Communism is behind most of these occult movements as Christianity is despised by the Jewish Zionist and the Jewish Marxist alike. No one else really cares about Jesus freaks… not even Muslims.
          These groups that came out after Albert Pike were just like any group of people who were not rich or important. All bored people play at titilation, and if you’re a Christian you get really excited and scared by it — all the more reason to do it. The wealthy are childish. Nixon had it right when he called them a bunch of homos running around naked and hugging trees. Alex Jone’s took a video which he staged of the giant Owl.
          People read Horoscopes and Monarchs had psychic readings, does that mean they are in service of the NWO? I guess if you think Christianity is in a fight against Satanism then yes. But I bet, if there is an anti-Christ to appear, Christians will be the first to line up and bow down. Satan isn’t a monster but comes as an angel of light. And who exactly were the synagog of Satan again?
        • Sean Torres
          Gosh Mr Spade you wrote me a wall ok from the top. Belief and faith are incredibly positive things for a human to have. Do not merely dismiss them as unnecessary. Faith can quite literally move mountains I feel. Also to hear scapegoat has biblical origins does not surprise me being well versed in etymology. Not sure of your point there other than to put down the scriptures of religion found in the torah and gospels…
          I have alot of issues with the holocaust and to be honest some would call me a denier. I am merely thorough and open minded. Since I was not there as a witness personally it is hard to say what truly happened though I will mention Hitler offered to deport Germany’s jews and the world turned them away notably usa…You are totally right about the mass programming but please do not be rude and assume I am. Gosh I would say I am one of the most original people you have probably ever had discourse with. Are you aware of the work of Al Neal? Good stuff indeed. Now where i have to take you to task is Hitler. While in many ways the Hitlers rise to power was a reaction in terms of how he achieved popularity with the German populace he was certainly funded and controlled by outside forces. He even attended tavistock and was friends with Crowley of all people so I think you are not really aware of this. Have you seen the painting of lenin and hitler playing chess in vienna? Where we completely agree is what has been done to Africa. My heart weeps for Africa. Such a rich continent in terms of resources but the Africans are made to suffer so. As for the grove i am sorry you need to read up on molech. Molech can be found in so many places. On the dollar bill the layout of dc etc. These are not just homos though sex magik plays a part. Are you aware of the mother of darkness castle and the dutroux affair? Seriously look into these things. Satanism is a bit more of an issue than you are aware of apparently. I have been conducting extensive research on this feel free to ask me for points of possible interest that might help you reassess this. All in all I think you are very intelligent fundamental problem i see is you think judiasm is an ethnicity (in some ways genetically it is but that gets complicated) Judaism is a religion. These humans who perform all these evils are not practicing Judaism which I think is a wonderful religion for the most part (i do have issues with some of their beliefs though). These men and women are actually satanists. Strange but true. Oh well take it easy Mr. spade. Oh btw you completely ignored my commentd about marx’s plagiarism you might be surprised to know it was a fellow by the name of Clinton Roosevelt who he plagiarized. Now wait a second havent I heard that name somewhere before? lol giggles walks away…
        • Sam Spade
          Freemasonry took the place of organized control when the Monarchy and Church fell apart. But as Trotsky said, it could not handle the changes that came in the Industrial Revolution… so “Socialism” and propaganda science took its place. Look at the first anti-Illuminati writer who was a Jesuit that feared they wanted to replace the “throne and alter” with REpublics. Later the Federalists would use it against Thomas Jefferson’s party saying Illuminati wanted to replace the Republic with Democracy. It’s a boogie man.
          Marx plagiarizing from a labor writer is useless information because the whole point of Marx was the Culture of Marxism and the pyramid scheme of Marxism itself. European Zionism wanted to centralize all the worlds economy under a usury based currency that Jews were in control of; and Marx offered a Utopia that created a world where you the “worker” is in debt to the state which in turn was in debt to the central banking economy. And that’s almost what we have today.
          The Illuminati boogie man does not factor in because even the Freemason lodges were losing power at the time.
          Marxism important lies in the Culture of Marxism as they were trying to create (multiculturalism = no culture outside of State/Media culture). Jews want open boarders and no religous or cultural identity inside of Europe or America; and despite what you say about good Torah loving Jews, they all support this global reality. They also mock Christians and attack any research involving “white” cultural or even genetic identity at EVERY chance.
          Hitler had barely discharged out of WW1 in 1920 Lenin was dead (or murdered) in 1924. This rabble rousing homeless German solider was not playing chess with the Jewish Queen of the Russian empire in a 4yr time span. This is what I mean about research vs. accusations. You can’t let people just tell you, “Joe Shmoe was related to Bill Clinton who was a member of the Knight of Malta and grandfather went to Satanic rituals with Mark Twain”.
          It’s not about linking names to names like celebrity gossip does; Historical research it’s about linking possible data with physical evidence. You’re not allowed to ‘write’ history, you’re supposed to be skeptical.
          That’s why good historical novels read like a detective’s report and not a bio-pic on Marylin Monroe.
          Even if every great dictator in history could be a square and compass party boy that still would not be evidence or a mass conspiracy inside of the Communist or Nazi parties. I’ll give you Albert Pike’s writings, but they all talked like that back then — everybody was talking about a One World ideas because it went back to Hellenistic Empire and Alexander the Great’s dream. Everyone in the 1700 and 1800s was waiting for the next Alexander to create a “brotherhood of men”.
        • Sean Torres
          Ah but as knowledgeable as you are you make some mistakes. It is important that Marx plagiarized. I am happy you admit this?? Cause in a previous comment you claimed he was inspired. Since he clearly was not “inspired” then I fear something more sinister is afloat. Aye as you yourself said many will think it is a Jew but it is the synagogue of Satan. Straight from revelation. As for research sadly alot of this has to be derived. It cannot simply be read in history books as I have found many are censored. Often I learn from deaths and events and symbolism honestly. That is just me. I noticed you conveniently left out tackling hitler’s training at tavistock. Do you know of tavistock? Are you speaking of things you know not about? Naughty boy. And of course you completely ignored the mother of darkness castle and the dutroux affair but that is normal. Most of the world does. I mean how many could possibly accept that these supposedly impotent monarchs and nobleman (at least according to you not to me) are simply purchasing young men and women to sacrifice them in satanic rituals. I mean why would you care about that? I think your problem honestly is you are a contradiction of hate. You want to blame the jews for all the worlds ills. When there truly is a group for you to hate you say they cannot exist simply because it would be too fantastic of a story. Have you lived life Mr. Spade? Life is at many times absurd and unreal seemingly. Life is truly stranger than fiction. In fact dare I say you accuse me of being programmed but it is you sir who is programmed. While I agree a good history novel is like a detective report you won’t acknowledge Sutton’s work? I mean cmon. It shows that Trotsky and Lenin were funded outside of Russia. Trotsky even had an apt in NYC you can still go there today! This shows there is an international cabal and sorry bloke there are a lot of Asians involved so there goes your international Jew theory. Seriously Spade I like you but stay on target stay on target. Freemasonry was merely infiltrated and co-opted for Illuminati purposes this is what Adam Weishaupt planned to do and what Washington warned of and it is what happened….ok crash course in sean research…so like i go by events and assassinations you know stuff like that…think about it this boogeyman you say doesn’t exist…it killed JFK hmmm ok who else. What what’s this Lincoln ok commonality? Both wanted greenbacks interesting hmm anyone else. McKinley oh forgot about him what did he do oh i see got in the way of the fed oh now I get it…oh wait what’s this Patton???!! You mean they killed Patton? Look into this was revealed in the memoirs of a retired special forces fellow. Point is Spade you keep telling yourself the cabal don’t exist and that it is all evil greedy Jews but I rather you not mumble that as they march you into a camp. I rather you wake up and use that intellect to go after the real culprits. Who i repeat might be of Jewish lineage but are certainly not practicing.
        • Sam Spade
          Marx didn’t palgerize. I explained this. Communism wasn’t his invention (moses hess) just the pyramid scheme and some of the basic pseudo-science commentary on society was Marx.
          You speak of me hating while you demonize all pagans and all alchemists and all freemasons and all Jesuits, just to avoid the Jewish banking cartels and their mafia because you are programmed to look any other group but your beloved oppressors.
          The synagog of Satan were not Satanists as Satan is a god from another religion, just like Lucifer, and Beelzebub. Satanism doesn’t exist, it’s a boogey man cult that teaches nature worship and Nietzsche–isms. Stop playing ghost busters. The Synagog are those who give you a celestial Pharaoh God that commands obedience; they are the ones who defined Christianity after Christ’s followers were forgotten. They are Pharisees which is modern Judaism — And Rome was infiltrated by them (see: Cicero on the Jews). it’s a criminal cult just like the Catholics, just like most religious groups, just like the state cult of Marxism.
          Both wanted greenbacks? Guess who wanted to established not only a central bank but credit based money back in Lincolns day? You guessed it, Jewish interests. It’s their mafia scheme.
          You just made me look up Tavistock. The dates are all wrong even if it started after WW1 (which is didn’t); and the internet if full of immature people making wild accusations with NO reasoning behind it. This is masturbation Christian zealots who worship the chosen people. I’m done with you. That’s enough of that Alex Jones historical celebrity gossip crap for me. You don’t can’t handled the truth. You want Satanic myths and Hollywood Illuminati stories. You don’t want to face the fact that maybe the good guys are bad and the bad guys are not all connected in a ring of fire.
        • Sean Torres
          you totally need to educate yourself on clinton. roosevelt total plagiarism….till then ur a bit of a waste babbling on….
          i demonized alchemists? there you go assuming again….
          seriously look into clinton roosevelt after taking the stick out of ur but that you could be wrong on something….sheesh
        • Randall Vance
          Funny how Alex Jones/Bill Cooper/David Icke/John Birch Society get lumped together. Alex Jones blames the “elite” and the British Monarchy for everything, downplays Jesuit and Jewish control. Bill Cooper accused Alex Jones of being a CIA shill and warned his audience not to trust him. He talked about the Illuminati as an umbrella for the various secret societies that are involved with various governments and military. David Icke blamed reptilians then later Rothschild Zionism for the world’s woes. Birch Society does focus on Illuminati as being mainly Satanist/Communist. None of them really agreed on much besides using the word Illuminati.
          The letter may be a hoax, but the world wars were definitely planned. I believe all world leaders, religious and governmental, are corrupt pedophile degenerates. We should concede that the Pharisees preserved Babylonian mysticism through Kabbalah, and the practice of pedophilia through the Talmud. The gnostics were inspired by Kabalists. When Christianity began to prevail, occultists went underground. When the Knights Templar formed, they were influenced by ALL of the above, in addition to the Assassin Cult whom they butted heads. The Papacy was corrupted in its inception, the council of Nicea, by several occultist/gnostic philosophies and traditions. After enjoying the Papacy’s protection and later persecution, the Templars were eventually replaced by the Jesuits. Most of the Knights went underground again with the Rosicrucian order already in existence. Then came marriage with the stone mason guilds, this was like the mob taking over legitimate businesses to operate as a front.
          The Illuminati was a joint venture between the Jesuits and Rothschilds, and the Illuminati succeeded in thoroughly infiltrating and realigning the Masonic Lodges. We use the word pretty loosely these days, referring to any organization or individual who seems to be in league with the complete re-engineering of humanity.
          Today, the Zionists are the Fascists are the fundamentalists. The Vatican is the world Jewry is the Roshinaya, who controls Christendom, Judaism, and Islam. All influenced by Hinduism, Buddhism, and various ancient cults. There is no way to differentiate who is leading and who is towing the line. But we do know that they are all involved, it’s obvious. Whether they are torturing, raping and killing to gain power, or doing it because they love it, that’s satanism in my book.
        • Sam Spade
          Bill Cooper was actually retarded and insane, his research was really really bad. Jones is disinformation so his research is good but scare tactics. Icke tells everyone that Nordic Alien Nazis rule the world and has settled on Jesuit Nazis for a larger audience.
          Gnostics were hundreds of years before Kabala. Kabala is based off of them. It does not go back to the Babylonian captivity like the Talmud does.
          Satanism is an amoral Darwinian styled philosophy based off of opposing Christianity. It’s all theater and psychology to scare dumb people. There is no such thing as “Satan” outside of Zoroastrain myths. The word Satan is the actual word “adversary” in the Bible. The character was invented by Roman-Christian theologians. Roman-Christianity is the opposite of everything Christ stood for and is the real “antichrist”.
          There are no Fascists anymore or they wouldn’t be the “evil ring leaders” of this modern world and Europe wouldn’t be full of Africans/Muslims.
          Zionists are a code word for all Jews who people don’t like so they call them Zionists. Zionism is a real thing but it’s not Satanic; it fits with the “Chosen People” outlook.
          It’s all International Socialism.
        • Dark Age Fire
          Hey Sam, I have read all your comments on this thread and found them very valuable and they sync with what I have researched myself. Do you have a blog? What online sources/writers/ do you find most valuable? I wish you would write a series on the topics that you spoke of in these comments. thanks!
        • dale ruff
          Lots of hatred in your post……very sad.
        • dale ruff
          Snarky and no evidence. Sad.
        • Sean Torres
          Well you are succinct. What is your position Dale?
        • dale ruff
          I stated my position; neither you nor your nemisis, Sam Spade, presents any evidence and both of you make absurd claims and deal insults as a substitute for substance.
          I think the world is run by conspiracies but they are not esoteric or occult but just the ruling class, military, media, corporate, and political, making secret plans to carry out their agendas of war, privatization, and exploitation.
          The really lunatic conspiracy theories poison the well of credible conspiracy allegations, such as the murder of JFK (which Congress declared a conspiracy and most people accept as a conspiracy) and 9/11, where we know that the 9/’11 Commission itself has stated that the government lied, which means the govt is covering up the truth.
          If I were trying to hide my complicity in a real conspiracy, I would promote crazy conspiracy theories to poison the well.
        • Sean Torres
          I used to be like you. Now i trip over examples of the esoteric. They hide much in the very layout of D.C. and other important cities for example. But that is neither here nor there. Basically mr I know it all don’t just dismiss this element. It is a way of communicating between others who can read the signs essentially.
          As for the occult the word means hidden and yes much is truly hidden from most.
          Ok so you don’t buy jfk story cool cool neither do i it is interesting research. I would recommend Dr. Mary’s Monkey good book for you if you like that topic. Oswald gotta love it only commie defector get his ticket back paid for by state dept…
          911 is a mess and waaaaaay to much to deal with here. I would recommend September Clues and its addendum there. The water is totally poisoned.
          You never answered me. Pike letter a hoax or not? What is your position? You sound like a nice chap I will consider it a mere oversight.
          Us lunatics are meticulous.
          I tip my hat to ya…giggles walks away….
        • dale ruff
          I find your response snarky (Basically mr I know it all don’t just dismiss this element..” and lacking in evidence.
          You lunatics are useful idiots for those who want to smear all conspiracy theories by poisoning the well.
          I think you know what I think of the Pike letter. It is just another way to poison the well of credible conspiracy theories.
          I checked out September Clues: this is exactly the kind of whacko conspiracy theories (no one was killed in the collapse of the buildings?) Here is the kind of lunacy that makes the sound allegations and evidence looked tainted:
          “September Clues research has determined that the alleged victims were fictitious identities mostly/or entirely created within the digital realm.”
          That would be a good way to get people to dismiss the
          factual evidence about 9/11. It poisons the well.
          That seems to be your mission.
          I will stick with Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth.
          In my opinion your approach and your ideas will only alienate people (as they have alienated me even tho I think JFK and 9/11 are based on govt lies) and give conspiracy theories a bad name. I don’t find that helpful, and no where did you provide an ounce of evidence. That means that rational people can dismiss you out of hand, as I do.
        • Sean Torres
          well if you dismiss the esoteric I am honestly in good company…
          ok so you are saying pike didn’t write the letter and that the forger was simply good at guessing future events…ooooookkkkkkk…..
          Telling you man September Clues is good stuff review objectively. So do the architects. There is also that one report from the fellow who worked for the company who gaurenteed the steel…
          All in all it is actually pilots for 911 truth who give the best smoking guns….but silly goose I told you it was a complicated issue…
          My mission is not to poison the well I merely stand up for myself. Honestly you come off as a prick.
        • dale ruff
          “Honestly you come off as a prick.”
          That is the kind of persuasive power that will win people to your side. Thanks for showing your true colors.
        • Sean Torres
          But thats the thing. You remind me of this monty python movie. I am not trying to “persuade” you. I rather you have your own opinion and individuality. Just discourse sir. Plain and simple. You went way off topic. I politely reminded you hey dude uh you didn’t answer the topic question. You still really haven’t but whatevers.
          In terms of like winning people I feel I already win. You are questioning 911 and JFK. that is good enough for me. You aren’t into studying the occult hey I will live. Alot of people don’t get that. Nothing new to see there. The fact that you are even questioning is good enough for me.
          True colors hell yeah. One of my favorite songs. Yes I will always be true and real and honest. Why should I or would I pull my punches? A prick you act like a prick you shall be called sir.
          Yeah I think September Clues is really heavy lifting. It requires a sharp wit to follow along with Simon’s analysis. Though it is spot on. I suppose the essential issues are 767 can’t reach that speed at that altitude otherwise it would break apart. It is nigh impossible to perform the 3 maneuvers 2 tower hits or pentagon. Give it a go in sim sometime. Then even if the 3 impacts don’t match the responding damage in terms of collision physics or the collapse in the case of the towers. The dust cloud physics don’t add up either. One of the more interesting things is FBI went on record during the Mousaii trial and said the phone call on the pentagon plane was technically impossible. That airphone is on display at the smithsonian. Ironically the united airlines says that plane did not have an airphone. 2 of the planes flew for years following 911. Only de-registered fairly recently. Clues points out the very damming BBC announcement of the tower 7 collapse 10 mins in advance…I could go on and on really…911 reminds me of what Pesci says in JFK “It is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma”
          Gosh did I mention it was also Jesus’s bday and that it was mentioned as a possible event date waaaay back in a 1944 congressional briefing????
        • Big peter
          You mad brah.
• Bea Harpy
  Even if the original document is essentially made up you have to accept that the WWIII described in Carr’s writings bears a great resemblance to what is happening in modern times.. when you consider he died in 1959.. don’t you think?
• Kent
  If you’re an Orthodox Christian (who drinks blood of Jesus
  regularly, prays, wears a cross, fasts, rejects New World Order documents, and
  doesn’t sin), then demons have no effect on you. People who use drugs see
  demons who cleverly disguise themselves as aliens. God gave you like a shield
  so that demons don’t harm you, but when you sin or do something spiritually
  wrong, you open yourself up to demonic influence. For example, chanting mantras
  leads to demon possession. It’s not the words that get you possessed; it’s the
  rhythm. Buddhists worship fake mountain Kailash in Tibet inside which demons
  have a UFO base. Barcode is Druid black magic curse. Mediums are shown pictures
  and given thoughts by demons. Demons move the Ouija board. Demons=Ghosts=Spirit
  Guides=Aliens. Demons never do good. Demons fly in UFOs. Crystal balls, tarot
  cards, barcodes, tattoos, talismans, masks, skulls, amulets, etc. attract
  demons. Meditation, chanting mantras, hypnosis, and astral projection lead to
  demon possession. Casting spells is asking demons for help. Ask Greek Orthodox
  priest to help you out (blessing your house, etc.) Most dreams and thoughts are
  from demons. To break any curse, pray slowly the Psalm “the Lord is my
  light and my salvation” 40 times a day for 40 straight days. That’s 1600
  times in total. Also, if you’re in any trouble (like sleep paralysis), scream:
  JESUS! Pray the Jesus prayer all the time: “Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God,
  have mercy on me a sinner.” Jesus will come back to end the flying
  antichrist’s rule when this antichrist conceives a thought in his evil mind
  that he 666-isotope-ray-lasered everyone. Antichrist’s minions came up with
  Dec. 21 in order to desensitize people to the real events predicted in the
  Bible. Antichrist is 0% God and 100% man. He’s possessed by Satan since he’s 12
  years old. He flies. He wears gloves to hide long nails. He’s pale with red
  eyes. He’s surrounded by demons who appear as angels of light. 666ed people go
  to permanent hell. 666 is given by lasers (isotope rays) on wrist or forehead
  when people stretch hands to receive small plastic grey card (world passport).
  Reject 666. Don’t go into a UFO to be healed by demons. Those who reject 666
  will go to heaven. Also, their direct ancestors will be saved from hell.
  Dinosaurs live under our level. They will get out through sinkholes and lakes.
  To kill them, go for their nerves. Again, 666 is given by isotope rays on wrist
  or forehead when people stretch hands to receive small plastic grey card (world
  passport). Police will chip and isotope ray people on highways. Food stores
  will isotope ray people too. Antichrist will also release prisoners to mark
  people. Reject 666 at all cost. If you’re about to be marked, scream:
  “Lord, have mercy!” three times. Go hide with Orthodox Christians to
  escape 666. After death, 3 days you here, then you’re shown hell and heaven
  from 3rd until 9th day after death, then from 9th until 40th day demons accuse
  you of sins; that was before, now people just straight out go to temporary hell
  because of Social Security; but 666ed people go to permanent hell right away;
  666 is given when people stretch hands to accept the evil plastic card. Before
  Jesus preached in hell, all people (except Enoch and Elijah) went to hell. Now,
  aborted kids go to hell for 33 and a half years. After crucifiction, Jesus
  preached in hell. Those who believed, got out of hell. Suicide leads to hell.
  Maximum torture is at the bottom (ice hell) for biggest sinners. Stalin is head
  in boiling water. When he tries to get out, demons push him back in. Others
  stand up to knees or up to chest in boiling water. There are different
  punishments in hell. If you didn’t do anything bad, you’re in a dark room.
  Also, hell is not permanent now. So, it’s possible to get out, especially if
  you’re prayed for and your relatives give to charity in the name of Archangel
  Michael. God is love. God has unlimited joy. God wants to share His joy with
  us. Point of this life is to get to heaven and spend eternity with God. God
  gives you a name during baptism. Devil gives you an anti-name during anti-baptism.
  Barcode is Druid black magic curse and a form of mark of the beast just like
  Social Security. People who took any number (which is an anti-name given during
  anti-baptism by the beast) on documents or in computer go to temporary hell;
  but those who receive green 666 (given with world passport with no name on it)
  on forehead or wrist go to permanent hell. How not to go to hell? Give back all
  these anti-name anti-baptism documents back to the beast by writing to
  appropriate authorities. If authorities refuse to cancel these anti-names, then
  write again (up to three times). If you wrote to the gov’t three times about
  it, but gov’t refused, then God will not send you to hell. Don’t go into UFO to
  be healed by demons.
  • Jesus Pleasus
    You’re fucking nutty…buddy.
• kent
  God is love. God has unlimited joy. God wants to share His
  joy with us. Point of this life is to get to heaven and spend eternity with
  God. Name of the beast is the name that the beast gives you. God gives you a
  name during baptism. Devil gives you an anti-name during anti-baptism. Barcode
  is Druid black magic curse and a form of mark of the beast just like Social
  Security. People who took any number (which is an anti-name given during
  anti-baptism by the beast) on documents or in computer go to temporary hell;
  but those who receive green 666 (given with world passport with no name on it)
  on forehead or wrist go to permanent hell. How not to go to hell? Give back all
  these anti-name anti-baptism documents back to the beast by writing to
  appropriate authorities. If authorities refuse to cancel these anti-names, then
  write again (up to three times). If you wrote to the gov’t three times about
  it, but gov’t refused, then God will not send you to hell. Don’t go into UFO to
  be healed by demons.
• themaskedmarvel
  Thank you for your research debunking yet another fabrication of paranoid minds. The process of stamping out these endless hallucinations, fabrications and bald lies is endless, as they are continually manufactured or recycled, but necessary. It’s easy to make up a lie, it takes a lof ot patience and research to debunk it before people believe it (which they will anyway, if they want to).
  Unfortunatley, it is a short series of steps from fantasy to lie to rumor to “suppressed truth” to “grand conspiracy” to accepted dogma, as Hitler, the Russian forgers of the phony “Protocols of the Elders of Zion” and other cynical liars have proven throughout history.
  Thanks for your service in debunking yet another paranoid fabrication by an anonymous liar with an agenda.
• Brian
  When you try to denounce the letter and mention of it the fact is this information may have been discussed after WW1 but certainly was out there prior to WW2 and as we look in the headlines we see WW3 out the window with the exact scenario described taking shape. There is another document that one can download called the protocols of the learned elders of zion. This title may sound anti semetic but in reality this is a bullet point document that demonstrates strategies for a small group to maintain control of the masses. When one reads this it fits the reality of how the world runs. If you have never heard of this it is a real eye opener and worth your time to invest. One parting thought is the scriptures tell a lot more detail of the end times than do the writings of the illuminati members. Zech speaks of this war in Israel too and it is found in chapter 12. Read psalm 2 psalm 110 Daniel 2 and mathew 24 for a beginner course on end times.
• taomaster
  Hey Keelan, perhaps the original letter is in Warehouse 13. Thanks for a great article saving me from viewing the conspiracy videos propping up this scenario. However, I note that a couple of posters have raised the issue of the Protocols which is a much harder document to dismiss once read thoroughly. So, why have you not put the same energy into the Protocols? I know they have already been dismissed as a fake document way back when, but those discrediting it “officially” were probably its custodians. The Protocols is a very compelling document as far as a conspiracy for world domination goes.
  Afraid they might shut you down?
• Ann Diener
  What I wonder about now, is could the Albert Pike letter be leading people to create a reality subconsciously. It almost seems like the three wars of “Pike’s vision” could be a plant written much later to guide people into believing faulty assumptions about the world they are living in and believe in a hopeless reality that is in actuality someone’s or a group’s fantasy, not really based on any Pike vision. Like if number one and number two are accurate, so must number 3 and so there is no way of anything being different. Pretty interesting when you look at how consciousness can be shaped with faulty assumptions and “conspiracy” thinking. No wonder this “secret” letter was so well publicized.
• Logician
  Admirable effort but extremely misguided. The basis for this argument assumes that “public knowledge” is synonymous with “private knowledge”. Your write as a child using the events and publications GIVEN to you s a guide. You don’t realize that the dates, times, and events you use to guide your theory were developed and released by design. Until you accept how far this extends into our human history you will never begin to grasp the concepts you attempt to refute.
  • Sam Spade
    And once again an Alex Jones/Icke/Cooper pawn simply accuses others of ignorance. You people are sick with your lack of logic and material evidence. Read Mine Kampf and Hitler’s opinions on Freemasons. Watch his public speeches. Learn what these organizations say, instead of acting like another crazy bible thumper. History is a discipline, and you are terrible uneducated and indoctrinated — Research your claims and stop making wide accusations of membership!
    • Zac
      I tend to agree with the trajectory of the above article. I must however, acknowledge the remote, and I emphasize ‘remote’, possibility that what ‘Logician’ feebly describes is a possibility, if one would, for the sake of argument, adopt the presuppositions necessary for such claims to be.
      • Sam Spade
        It’s not possible even if you adopted the claims because Freemasonry took the place of organized control when the Monarchy and Church fell apart. But as Leon Trotsky said, it could not handle the changes
        that came in the Industrial Revolution… so different “Socialisms” and propaganda science took its place. Now the TV can control you.
        1. Look at the first anti-Illuminati writer who was
        a Jesuit that feared they wanted to replace the “throne and alter” with
        Republics.
        2. Later the Federalists would use it against Thomas
        Jefferson’s party saying Illuminati wanted to replace the Republic with
        Democracy.
        3. Then it became the John Birtch Society that used the Illuminati in place of the word “Jews” when it came to Communism and Marxism (liberals/Progressives) and Noe-Conservatism because the John Birtch society were Christian Zionists afraid to link Marxist movements back to the Jews.
        4, Now Alex Jones and Bill Cooper, two Christian Protestants (Alex married to a Jewish woman and sponsored by Jewish media) are telling everyone that Catholic Satanists are taking over the world (just like in Steven Spielberg’s movie) when we know the changes that are taking place come from a Banking Cartels and who issue our credit based currency and are own by Zionist investors; Marxist Jews also own the global media and global academic investments that are pushing for “Globalism” or “Cultural Marxism”. People in power are terrified to tell the truth about these wars and cultural shifts because they are demonized as “racists” and “nazis” if they speak out or disagree.
        The Illuminati are an all purpose boogie man.
  • Steven Smithe
    You’re no logician.
    How is it you have knowledge of this private knowledge?
    Maybe you are so desperate for answers you’re willing to believe without evidence?
• solitairecat64
  I’m reading a book written in 1929 entitled Freemasonry and Judism. It is about the “secret powers behind revolution”. I haven’t read the whole book but judging from the parts I’ve read (I always start with the conclusion when reading a book) it does support the Illuminati conspiracy theory. Also, when we look at the actions of US Presidents it shows Satan’s handiwork because no God fearing leader would be making the decisions that are being made which are leading us into WW3.
  • SNCHS
    Illuminati is JEWISH. Adam Weishaupt was son of generational Rabbi sons. He tried to borrow 50 for an abortion way back then. hahahah A real class act huh? He was 29 and head of the org? hahahha EVER HEARD OF A FALL GUY? ahahahahaha The elders of zion (bankers) are in their 80’s and 90’s before they get the floor, so a 29 year old wouldn’t even know enough to get them refreshments during a meeting. Get real. 29 and running the world when 5 years before he was hitting up friends Dads for abortion money???? hahahhahahhaha That’s like…Rothschild being a poor but thrifty coin dealer and then within a year he has 300 mansions with virtually every masterpiece ever painted hanging in them all. They are the front family for the Jewish conspiracy. See, first the little boy OF 29, goes down. Then if over much battle and toil, the house of Rothschild is leveled, then later they come up with another moronic sham….. Only this time…..it will be put down very quickly. THEY CAUSE THE WORLD TO SUFFER FOR THEIR GREED. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE RAPIST HUMPING YOU AND YOURS.
    • solitairecat64
      When I started reading about the Illuminati and the extent of it, (there are entire organizational charts on the internet), I wasn’t sure about the “Jewish” involvement. Now, months later, I see all the arrogance, lies and violence spewing from those that claim to be “GOD’s chosen”.
      I wonder how close they are to implementing the NWO? What do you think it means that most of those living in Israel are Khazars (Turks) not Jews? I was wondering if the true Jews are going to sacrifice these “fake” Jews in WW3.
      • snchs
        no, you’re close though brother. It’s the opposite though according to Pikes 3rd WW letter the fake jews, the bankers will destroy Israel. They are JUDEAN. THE 10 N. TRIBES ARE CAST OUT SAYS THE JEWS. THEY HAVE NO INHERITANCE IN THE WORLD TO COME.
        • Liam H. Suh
          SNCHS, I have been searching these things based on biblical prophesy. I would love to find out more…from you, in particular. Is there anyway you would share more either here, by email or whatever would work for you? Thanks -Liam
    • icinevitableconsequence
      I would say the illuminati is actually Jesuit in nature and they are just as the Jesuit oath states and their symbol represents a wolf in sheeps clothing, they will do anything and pose as anyone to further their goal. Bringing the whole world into a one world catholic or in reality pagan or satanic government that governs with “reason” instead of faith, they will do anything and act as jews, protestants, muslims and whatever they need to be to infiltrate all of these groups and destroy them from the inside!
      • charnk
        Im more apt to believe Jews over the Jesuits being the illuminati. There are about 20 million jews WORLDWIDE, but everytime you turn on the news, theyre running the banks, corps and the news stations themselves.
        • snchs
          Thanks for shutting that shill down in his sleazy tracks. That’s how you defeat the boy rapers.
        • InevitableConsequence
          research Masonic Labor Zionists
      • SNCHS
        THE JESUITS, THE 5 WHO FOUNDED IT WERE JEWISH!!!!! LOYOLA-JEWISH!!!! FINANCED BY THE MONEYCHANGERS. DID YOU KNOW THE POPE DISBANDED THE JESUIT ORDER????????????
        YES THEY DID. THE CABAL HAD THE POPE ARRESTED WHERE HE DIED IN JAIL!!!! THEN THE BANKERS TOOK OVER THE VATICAN BANK, THEN RE FORMED AND RE STARTED THE JESUITS IN THE EARLY 1800’S. IF THE JESUITS WERE IN CONTROL WOULD CHRISTIANITY BE ATTACKED AND STOMPED OUT AND JEWISH MYTICISM LUCIFERIANISM IS BEING PUSHED. WHAT’S YOUR ANSWER FOR THAT? HAHAHAHA ALL SECRET SOCIETIES ARE RUN BY THE 100% JEWISH ROYAL FAMILY…..THE DUKE OF KENT IS THE HEAD OF ALL SECRET SOCIETIES. THE JESUIT GENERAL IS ANOTHER JEWISH MAN. WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR INFORMATION? WOLF BLITZER? HAHAHAHA HE’S EX DIR. OF AIPAC. THE JESUITS? HAHAHAH THEY’RE A SCAPEGOAT. “In this NEW WORLD ORDER, ISRAEL will furnish ALL leaders without opposition.Governments of the different peoples forming the world republic will FALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE JEWS. It will then be possible for the JEWISH RULERS (bankers) to abolish private property everywhere to make use of the resources of earth. Thus the promise of the TALMUD be fulfilled, in which is said when the Messianic time is come, JEWS will have ALL the property of the WHOLE WORLD in their hands”BARUCH LEVY 1928
        “Hitler will have no war (does not want war), but we will force it on
        him, not this year, but soon.”
        – Emil Ludwig Cohn in Les Annales, June, 1934
        (also quoted in his book “The New Holy Alliance”).
        “We Jews are going to bring a war on Germany.”
        – David A. Brown, National Chairman, United Jewish Campaign, 1934
        We have exterminated the property owners in Russia.We are going to do the same thing in Europe and America.
        (The Jew, December 1925,Zinobit)
        The world revolution which we will experience will be exclusively our affair and will rest in our hands. This revolution will tighten the Jewish domination over all other people.”
        – Le Peuple Juif, February 8, 1919
        “Israel won the war [WW I]; we made it; we thrived on
        it; we profited from it. It was our supreme revenge on
        Christianity.” (The Jewish Ambassador from Austria to London,
        Count Mensdorf, 1918).
        • InevitableConsequence
          Well if u read what I posted, I stated they are pagan and luciferian under a catholic cloak. I never said there weren’t many Jewish families working for them or the other way around yet you know the Rothschild family controls all Vatican money holdings and through NM Rothschild & sons controls all media through reuters. I do my own reseach and see through the propaganda they spread, yet to say it is jewish is completely wrong as Isreal is controlled and funded by the Us and Britain, both backed by Vatican interests to start a war in the middle east through Jew and Arab tensions so they can bring their luciferian, Cabbalistic, paganism that they all worship regardless if they are a catholic or a Jew they are both Luciferian and should be seen as such. why are so many that have an opinion so hateful and ignorant open your eyes we are all being wiped out not just Christianity, Judaism or islam they are all threatened by the true controller of the satanic new world order the Black pope now true Pope Jorge Borgolio research who he actually is then tell me they are not luciferian. you know since the counter reformation the Jesuits goal is to wipe out Christianity in all forms but Catholicism read a history book and stop preaching internet conspiracies concocted by those who are truly manipulator and coadjutators. You know there is a whole movement titled traditional Rabbi’s oppose Zionism and they are widely accepted in Iran and many other places that are standing against this Jesuit – jewish New World Order of luciferian. Do you even know why they disbanded the Jesuit order? it is because they were becoming to powerful and the pope was unable to control them, so he disbanded them.
• snchs
  No one is saying he predicted the future. It means they made this happen through their agentur. Read the letter goofus. It’s like saying the Protocols of Zion are a fraud. The fraudster predicted exactly what the bankers judeomasonics would do 150 years out to a T in every way. By the way, Albert Pikes was born to Benjamin and Sarah CHASE, not Pike. They lie to you. Freemasonry is 100% jewish. Google who said this. I didn’t dream it up. The head of Jewry in America, Rabbi Wise said this back a hundred years or so ago. Only an idiot couldn’t see it. Especially when they brag about controlling it in old books. Read what the Protocols say about the Freemasons they own. Read, The Nameless War. Ben Franklin and George Washington warned America not to let them into this country to stay. Research this. I’m sure you’ll call them frauds, because you’re just another black rimmed glasses bolshevik. hahahahah huH? ahahahahaha. Remember, because I do, that Trotksy was really Bronstein, Lenin was Unyalov, and Stalin was Djugashvhilli which means in eastern Turko-Georgian, son of jews. Marx real name was Moses Mordecai Levy. Dude, this isn’t Germany, Russia or Gaza. You will learn this. hhahahahhhahaha
• snchs
  Look at you with your, “Should 16 year old’s get to vote?” That’s what Bolsheviks do. They want to wreck your country so they don’t have to work. Just sit at the microphone and lie to the people so their judeomasonic hero’s can keep up the raping of the kids you pretend to care about’s futures. You’re starting to look like a real nasty Talmudic freak. That being said, or typed rather, har har har yakity yakity, have a “good day”. Code typing now. hahahaha. lknq34e7243utbabq[j.
  Tell me what that means and I’ll know you are as smart as me…..because I broke the code……can YOU? I’m a pattern seeker….and finder….these days. I still love ya. I just don’t trust ya. huh? huh? hahahhahahaha
• alsamtu
  Albert Pike is a good Freemason. He never wrote such a letter. History is full of fallacies and this is one of them. Zionists have always falsified history in order to achieve their own objectives. They still do, but are being exposed by the increased proliferation of modern communications technology and social media.
  • snchs
    hahaaha You’re an idiot. Albert Pike was a criminal. Every country in Europe was about to enter the war because of his massacres. Lincoln wanted a rope around this mans neck BIG TIME!!!!!! The leader of Bnai Brit’, and I don’t give two squats if I spelled it wrong ya know nothing prick, Simon Wolf, President of that lodge had breakfast/drinks with John W. Booth at the Willard Hotel.. BOOTH WAS MEMBER OF ALL HEBREW ACTING COMPANY. After Lincoln was killed…..you know they wouldn’t let his wife attend the funeral. She tried with many so called good lawyers to get her presidential spousal pension and was turned down 4 times. NEVER GOT IT. High Mason thug A. Johnson came in as President briefly and immediately pardoned PIKE who’s real name was Chase….born to Benjamin and Sarah CHASE…not Pike……got that sonny boy? YOU CAN’T PARDON SOMEONE FOR HIGH TREASON YOU FOOL. YET THEY DID…..You sound like you’re in a bubble world. ahahhaha You read their weasels books. You do understand that the bankers run and founded EVERY secret society. They’re the same bunch greatly that were running things in the ancient world. I’m not kidding. I’m the 13 g. grandson of Major General Israel Putnam. He said, “Don’t shoot ’til you see the whites of their eyes.” FREEMASONRY IS 1000000% JEWISH. Did you know a writer used Pikes 3 World War letter reference only 8 years after he wrote it and long before WW1 even…..they said it was a fake then tooooooo. hahahhaa Now you still do. THAT’S HOW BAD YOU PEOPLE ARE LIED TO. DID YOU KNOW THAT WILLIAM CASEY SAID TO REAGAN, HIS Cia dir. “We’ll be successful when what the media puts out and what the America people believe are 100% lies.” Voltaire said, “I wouldn’t be surprised if the jews became deadly to humanity as a whole.” Top that Jr. J.P. Morgan said, “There is common greed, and there is jewish greed….common greed has limits.” Sonny, history is made up. I hate to bust your cherry today but you sound like you were long over due. Albert PIke’s job was to train up the southern people and keep them in fear. He started gun clubs and he even founded the KKK……That’s the Knights KuKlos. You got it from me. I AM the sheepdog and I know what I’m talking about because I’ve been around a family that knows and I was close to the family historians when I was growing up. It’s their job to keep real history. Kuklos is greek for GOLDEN CIRCLE….So when he invents the KKK he and another “jew” Bedford Forrest Nathan, and then today you guys don’t even realize that the KKK is Knights of the GOLDEN CIRCLE. He and Judah Benjamin were Rothschild agents, and so was Jefferson Davis. THEY’RE ALL BASICALLY ON THE SAME SIDE….IT’S WARS TO KEEP ANY BODY TOO WEAK TO DEFEND AGANST THE COUNTRIES THEY HAVE BOUGHT OFF. NOW THERE ARE 195 COUNTRIES AND ONLY 3 DON’T HAVE THE FORCED USURY..SYRIA, IRAN AND CUBA, BUT CUBA IS CASTRO JEWISH RUN. OBAMAS MOTHER IS JEWISH…SO IS HOLDERS…..SO WAS GADAFFIS, AHMADINEJADS, AND BIN LADENS. THAT MAKES THEM ALL JEWISH, DOESN’T IT. BUT SINCE THE NEWSPAPERS AND JON STEWART…REAL NAME LIEBAWITZ, DOESN’T TELL THEN IT’S NOT TRUE HUH? HAHAHA John Wayne, Clint Eastwood….Jewish…jewish. Any questions? THAT’S WHAT THE FREEMASONRY IS ALL ABOUT. HAHHAHA FORCED USURY AND YOUR ENSLAVEMENT. DID YOU KNOW THE JEWISH BANKERS THANK YOU FOR BUILDING YOUR OWN FAMILIES JAILS. HAHHAHA THEY LITERALLY SAID THAT BEFORE. I COULD FIND OUT WHO AND WHEN BUT YOU COULD TOO IF YOU JUST TRIED…YOU WON’T FIND IT ON THE FIRST PAGES OF GOOGLE EITHER. HAHHAHHHAA GOOD LUCK KID, YOU SOUND LIKE YOU’VE BOUGHT EVERYTHING THEY TOLD YOU. YOU CAN DO BETTER THAN BETRAYING YOUR OWN COUNTRY. WW1 was King of England, Keiser in Germany, and Czar in Russia…DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT 3 FIRST COUSINS WHO GREW UP TOGETHER, ALL GRANDCHILDREN OF QUEEN VIC. HAHAHAH THE WARS ARE STAGED….THE BANKERS SAY WHEN AND WHERE IT STARTS AND THEY KNOW WHEN AND WHERE IT WILL END. THIS IS FACT AS SURE AS YOU’RE READING THIS TEXT. FRANKLY…I DON’T CARE IF YOU BELIEVE ME OR NOT….BUT YOU’RE JUST FLAT OUT IN DENIAL AND YOU’LL GET OVER IT IF YOU A. Benjamin Freedman speech on youtube 2hrs. He was at the Treaty of Versailles. Read, THE NAMELESS WAR……read, The Hidden Hand, Secret World Gov. hhahaha THESE ARE SOME HEAVY HITTERS THAT WROTE THESE BOOKS TO WARN YOU! THEY WERE VERY VERY IMPORTANT MEN. HUNTED MEN, LATER IN LIFE. GUESS HOW MANY PRESIDENTS WERE POISONED?
  • icinevitableconsequence
    have u not read morals and dogma, or are you simply just an “innocent” freemason who has not been initiated in the true nature of his craft.
  • GR4474
    Not all Jews are real Jews. Rothschilds are fake Jews, and I believe all the fake Jews are the evil ones.
    “I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” Revelation 2:9
• Tucker Robin
  The letter was in a museum in london for a short time before being removed, so you’re all wrong. He did not predict the future, he was told the plan.
  • rich echo
    Tucker my friend, you are absolutely right. This had nothing at all to do with predictions, its a plan, and very well orchestrated one.
    • icinevitableconsequence
      the reality is that, do you really think they would want you to know their plan, it is obvious pike was a luciferian anyone who was read his work and disagrees, has not read his work. Yet it is plausible to me that it was removed from the british museum because they knew it was too obvious for the world to just see their plan on display. this article gives no real proof that the letter does not exist it simply bashes everyone who has written about it as a conspiracy theorist. I do not believe false prophets like David Icke or Alex Jones, however they are simply telling half truths, yet to say it does not exist because these coadjutors have pushed it, is in my opinion exactly their goal to eliminate all truth by corrupting it and telling half truths with a bunch of lies and bigotry that only make people less likely to believe or even consider what their saying.
      • Mike Bowman
        Yes of course they want you to know their plan. They think people are stupid and play games with humanity. They really push the boundaries of what they can do to make people believe anything. Hell, they still have people thinking UFO’s are swamp gas and weather balloons in 2014!
      • http://www.abide-and-endure.org/ Jeremiah Nabiy
        I agree with all here, of course with the exception of Cedar. There is something I noticed about this whole Masonic/Illuminati/NWO thing: They LOVE to put little tid bits out there for people to see, yet not see. They are like murders who like to tell you what they are about to do, and then laugh when you can’t stop them, even though you had veiled information about what is going to happen. They will point at those who can’t see and say “It’s your fault you did not know or believe. We put all of it out there for you to see..!”
  • Sean Torres
    Yeah I have brought this up as well. But that does not appear to mean anything to the writer of the article (and sir I understand why I have since finished your article and while we agree to disagree you make your case for why) nor to many posters….
    To me it is a classic example of counting coup. I would love to see pictures of the exhibit. I imagine it was plain jane. Not much. Just right there as you enter if I remember it’s placement correctly. As in if you don’t read then read between the lines and do some mental gymnastics it’s true meaning would be lost to the uninitiated. To those hot on the trail so to speak it is chilling.
    I really wonder about this plan and how old it is….I often think about the life spans described in the bible and the Egyptian list of kings and I wonder…
  • CedarRapids
    so this amazing one world all controlling government couldn’t stop this letter from being on display to the world in the museum? is that your claim?
    • Reality Check
      Cedar get a grip pal! Typical sheeple comment. The letter was there in the museum. That is a cold hard fact. Good bye baaaaa
• Moonchild Hellbeast
  Many people are afraid to admit the world is manipulated by the secret societies and that they are the true decision makers of this world. The letter is authentic because for a while it was exposed in the british museum. It is not a hoax created online.
  • Keelan Balderson
    No it wasn’t, William Guy Carr admitted the information had been incorrect in his latter book. There is no evidence it was on display anywhere. And if if something was on display, it wasn’t the 3 world war text, because that was written by Carr himself, not quoted.
    • Element
      In such event, the WW3 is not a pretty good guess as you have implied. It is in a way true ever since Iraq. Call it whatever you want but if you could also check the Bible it would say Jesus would come back and fight non believers and Quran also stated the same way but in addition of an imam of the muslims come out to fight non believers and Jesus came back to fight along side with him. Given the fact it was written that Jesus would come back, and zionists wants to destroy religions, superstitions etc, i bet it would be a battle with modern warfare vs beliefs and miracle. WW3 is very creepy than the last 2 WW. With more technology given today, it could literally destroy the whole world with nuclear warfare hitting everywhere and thus the end of humanity with radioactive pollution’s swarming all over the world or if survived we would revert back to stone-age and barter system. Then, 100-200 years after that, humans would do the same mistake again as usual.
• dale ruff
  I have had to wade through a lot of garbage and hatred in my life, but the commentary that follows takes the cake. Catholics, Jews, hippies……………..all are blamed for the evils of the world.
  A great stench arises from the posts below……
• Tj Brown
  Mussolini and Hitler did not invent fascist ideology. Indeed, fascism was neither a 20th-century creation nor a peculiarly Italian or German one. Originating in the 19th century, fascist ideas appeared in the works of writers from France as well as Austria, Germany, and Italy, including political theorists such as Theodor Fritsch, Paul Anton de Lagarde, Julius Langbehn, Jörg Lanz von Liebenfels, Joseph de Maistre, Charles Maurras, and Georges Sorel; scientists and philosophers such as Johann Gottlieb Fichte, Giovanni Gentile, Gustave Le Bon, Friedrich Nietzsche, Vilfredo Pareto, Karl Vogt, and Ernst Haeckel; historians and social thinkers such asJoseph-Arthur, comte de Gobineau, Hippolyte Taine, and Heinrich von Treitschke; artists, writers, and journalists such as Gabriele D’Annunzio, Richard Wagner, Édouard Drumont,Maurice Barrès, and Guido von List; and conservative politicians such as Otto Böckel and Adolf Stoecker.
  • charnk
    True but he did name the Nazi party. Hitler wasn’t alive when this letter was written so Nazism wasn’t a thing. Don’t be a dope.
    • Eli Eliazian
      This whole aspect, that Albert Pike named the German empire a 50 years prior to its official installation, has an improbable-not impossible-answer. If a secret oligarchy were engineering events, then naming and owning their products is not out of the question.
    • notasheep
      Nazi…from (national socialism)…first appeared officially in 1903 in Germany….you don’t think a powerful force of entities working behind the scenes and able to engineer 3 world wars would be able to plan a simple word to inject into popular culture through the media decades prior?….
      They do it all the time…phrases and words are planned a long time prior
• Mike Bowman
  If one doesn’t believe that some elite powers are pulling strings of world leaders then you have become part of the problem. The Masons are real (proven) Illuminati are real (proven) and bringing in a New World Order is real (proven). We know wars are orchestrated so the few can profit from death. We know a depopulation agenda is at hand. This is nothing new. Regardless if you think the letter is real or not you shouldn’t be spreading lies that it isn’t true. Just because you don’t have the letter in your hand doesn’t make it false. For every conspiracy there is always someone there to debunk it somehow. There are many conspiracies that have been proven to be true like FEMA camps. One minute they tell you they don’t exist that you’re crazy for thinking so, the next minute Obama is telling you we have 800 and all for YOUR protection in the name of security. We know the government has been nothing but lying to us for generation after generation. Every war since the war of 1812 has been orchestrated by America. Even one of the Rockerfellers were caught on tape talking about how we will blow up the towers ourselves and then have our military going around in caves looking for someone they will never find. And…he was laughing about it. Think before you write everything off as being fake
  • CedarRapids
    ‘Illuminati are real (proven) and bringing in a New World Order is real (proven).’
    claiming proven doesn’t actually make it so.
    ‘Regardless if you think the letter is real or not you shouldn’t be spreading lies that it isn’t true. Just because you don’t have the letter in your hand doesn’t make it false’
    If you want to claim a letter exists then you had certainly better produce it somehow else expect no one to take you seriously.
    ‘There are many conspiracies that have been proven to be true like FEMA camps. One minute they tell you they don’t exist that you’re crazy for thinking so, the next minute Obama is telling you we have 800 and all for YOUR protection in the name of security.’
    When do you believe Obama said there were 800 FEMA camps? And the claim made by conspiracy nuts says they are concentration camps with guillotines installed (I do love those conspiracy nutters) Here is a helpful link for you, from fox in case you think its from a pro-Obama site….
    http://www(dot)foxnews(dot)com/story/2009/04/07/debunking-web-myths-about-fema-camps/
    ‘Even one of the Rockerfellers were caught on tape talking about how we will blow up the towers ourselves and then have our military going around in caves looking for someone they will never find. And…he was laughing about it’
    You actually believe that nonsense don’t you? jeez.
    • Eli Eliazian
      What do you make of the recent Nuclear Summit? The esoteric symbolism that has been the keystone of secret society semiotics?
    • Eli Eliazian
      “Here is a helpful link for you, from fox in case you think its from a pro-Obama site”
      In other words, you can trust what fox puts out, unlike those lying pro-Obama sites…really?
      No, really?
      and you want us to take what you say as the voice of reason?
      “If you want to claim a letter exists then you had certainly better produce it somehow else expect no one to take you seriously.”
      Not true. There’s all kinds of claims made by reputable media sources like Fox that you believe without actually have evidence of it in your hands.
      You’re the dope, my friend.
    • peaknik
      ‘Even one of the Rockerfellers were caught on tape talking about how we will blow up the towers ourselves and then have our military going around in caves looking for someone they will never find. And…he was laughing about it’
      This probably contains an error. The Rockefellers didn’t get caught on tape saying this (whilst David Rockefeller did get caught on tape in Baden Baden thanking media for keeping secret for over 40 years their plans for world control). This was however paraphrased from an interview with late Aaron Russo discussing his earlier friendship with the Rockefellers and what he claimed had been told to him.
• Hamish_Hyde
  Seems Pike got it right about WW3. Isis have just declared a new Caliphate.Watch this space.
  • SNCHHS
    YOU’RE A MAN WHO KNOWS SEEING IS BELIEVING. I BID YOU A VERY GOOD DAY AND YEAR.
  • Keelan Balderson
    No he didn’t because he never wrote a letter.
• Victoria
  I want to know when the letters were supposed to be discovered or when
  it first started circulating. Because a third WW would not be hard to predict. Especially after world war 2. And the earlier it was the easier it would be to predict and therefore more likely it is to be a hoax.
  • SNCHS
    THEY WERE WRITTEN IN 1870’S AND THE ORIGINAL LETTER WAS PROCURED AND SHOWN AROUND……8 YEARS AFTER THE LETTER THE MASONS AND THE JEWISH MEDIA EVEN BACK THEN SAID IT WAS A FAKE……..FAKE, YET IT WAS ONLY IN THE 1890’S? THEN 20 YEARS LATER THE 1ST WORLD WAR, THEN 25 YRS LATER THE 2ND AND THE 3RD HAS BEEN UNDER WAY SINCE 911. GET IT? THEY SAID IT WAS A FRAUD 20 YEARS BEFORE THE FIRST WAR. AHHAHAAHA THEN ALL OF THEM UNFOLDED. DID YOU KNOW MANY MANY RABBIS WERE QUOTED AS SOME KIND OF MYSTICS READING THE FUTURE BECAUSE THEY TOLD MANY IN SPEECHES THAT THESE WARS WERE COMING AND EVEN TOLD WHAT THE RESULT WOULD BE. WW1, GET POSSESSION OF HOLY LAND OUT OF THE TURKS HANDS. THEN WW2 GOT HOLY LAND IN HAND OF THE JEWS. HOLOCAUST WAS PART OF THE HOAX. GOOGLE: 6 MILLION MYTH. IF YOU GO TO THAT PAGE AND READ IT ALL, AND YOU STILL BELIEVE THE LIES….THERE IS NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT.
  • The Ring Of Saturn
    Even if it was written yesterday by a zonked out gangsta its total logic and interpretation of World Wars make it highly relevant today. Anyway if it makes people think and research Albert Pike then its a good thing.
• SNCHS
  THE PROTOCOLS OF ZION ARE REAL, OR THE FRAUDSTER, PRANKSTER JUST LUCKILY PREDICTED EVERYTHING THE BANKERS AND SECRET SOCIETIES WOULD DO FOR THE NEXT 150 YEARS, 150 YEARS OUT IN THE FUTURE….HAHAHHHA IT’S REAL YOU BONEHEAD, IN MY OPINION. HAVE YOU EVEN READ THEM? HAHHAH YOU GUYS ARE EASILY LED. FACE IT…YOU AND I WERE FOOLED. WHO WOULD THINK A GROUP WOULD BE THIS MURDEROUS?
• Eli Eliazian
  “…but the common thread that unifies them is the notion that wars and events on the geopolitical chessboard are long planned out agendas, and not spontaneous.”
  C’mon, guys…this guy is obviously someone who did too much investigating and his head got all messed up, and now, for the sake of his sanity, is trying debunk whats going on in HIS head via cognitive bias.
  After all is said and done, the improbable still does not make it impossible.
• CON10NDOR
  SNCHS YOU REALLY HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON HISTORY. GOT AN EMAIL ?
• fi
  Thanks since this vocabulary as you say was not around, I should have been onto that faster. This is a modern interpretation or not much. Just words to manipulate. Thanks for your good work.
• Reality Check
  Sorry buddy but that letter was in the British Museum and your article is no more than a cleverly thought out sheeple debunk for the sheeple. Don’t worry you are sadly the majority. Albert Pike was a 33rd degree mason and you clearly have no idea what that really means.
  You have NO idea what people of this level use as every day language nor does anyone except them. Just because a term becomes ‘public’ in a certain time doesn’t mean the people that may have conjured it up and planned it years before hadn’t already coined the phrase.
  The facts are simple: Albert Pike wrote a letter that was on public display for years. He got his predictions spot on correct and is on his way to completing his prophecy. Iraq, Syria, Libya, Gaza, Afghanistan.
  Wake up sheeple – Just because someone comes across as intellectual with their opinion doesn’t mean it’s not fresh from the bowel.
  • Keelan Balderson
    You’re just bold faced lying.
    • tony
      Well considering the document was in the museum that me and my mother visited many times i’m curios as to what your stating as the lie.
      • Keelan Balderson
        Oh come on Tony, don’t even bother saying stuff like that unless you’re prepared to back it up.
    • Tesla
      And you are a dumb loser with mental capacity of 0%. Better do some research before marking your bullshit as a fact! Letter was brought just after ww1 in public eye.
  • Check Check
    The author of article, you claim, has no idea of what a 33rd degree Mason really means, but then you do?! Riiiiiiight.
• Reality Check
  In case my vids are not approved guys and girls check out Michael Tsarion, Robert Dean and Norman Bergrun. Fascinating whatever your opinion :)
• Keelan Balderson
  Still kinda waiting for the part where you provide some evidence that the “letter” was on show at the “British Museum” … you know … so you argument has some validity.
  You wouldn’t be a “sheep” would you?
  • The Ring Of Saturn
    I read it was on display but then it got lost. British Intelligence is incredibly good at ‘losing’ incriminating evidence and lying to the public about it.
• http://www.abide-and-endure.org/ Jeremiah Nabiy
  ““One day when lecturing at Lille, I told my audience that I had just had an apparition of Nautilus, the most daring affront on human credulity I had so far risked. But my hearers never turned a hair. ‘Hear ye, the doctor has seen Nautulius,’ they said with admiring glances. Of course no one had a clear idea of who Nautilus was I didn’t myself but they assumed that he was a devil. Ah, the jolly evenings I spent with my fellow authors hatching out new plots, new, unheard of perversions of truth and logic, each trying to outdo the other in organized mystification. I thought I would kill myself laughing at some of the things proposed, but everything went; there is no limit to human stupidity.””
  So, how do you know WHICH one is true, what he said initially, or what he said later? Did you notice in your above quote, that he says that “no one had a CLEAR idea of who Nautilus was”. Why would he not say that they thought it was the devil, but in reality I just made him up? Why would he not come out and say their assumptions were wrong? I tell you I believe in God, but I can’t explain Him. You don’t have a clear understanding of Him, because you are going off of my experience and I DON”T have a clear understanding of Him. That is what the author of your quote is REALLY saying. Classic case of mis direction. If you couldn’t believe the first thing he said, what gives his latter statement any weight? His statement is not really saying that they were wrong. You can know the truth, and then start connecting dots where there are none to be connected, etc. I GIVE you the truth, but NOT the direction or how to interpret this truth. You would then be making “perversions of truth”. That in no way makes your starting point a lie, now does it? I give someone a thousand dollars, and tell them to do what they want with it. They tell me they want to buy a food chain. I laugh, not because I did not give them money (truth) but what they “PROPOSED” to do with it was hysterical. Still not a lie. Your youth shows in so much that you do not have the ability to read PLAUSIBLY and REASONABLY between the lines.
• The Ring Of Saturn
  New to this site and pleasantly surprised. The letter is in most likelihood not genuine but the content, perhaps unintentionally if it is a mere hoax, is a viable statement of intent and IMHO a cornerstone of covert Foreign Policy. By understanding that statement there is Order from Chaos..
• tony
  As you stated in you article the translation is not of the period such as the translation of the bible. But one just needs to look at the events of today and the time line to see an uncanny similarity. and with this in mind you may start to think of ways to change a very well planned and orchestrated set of circumstances that are leading the world to the points made in a letter you say is a hoax. If it is a hoax then please try to explain why these events are occurring with such increased vervoer.
• Tesla
  “The rest of the “letter” is extremely dubious. Terms like Fascism, Nazism and Zionism were never really used in Pike’s lifetime” That has to be the most idiotic thing I have ever heard! Who is this dumb writer anyway? Illuminati always knew what are they going to do just like this world wars. They created Nazism and Zionism, so of course they knew what they were doing. They created Nazism way before world wars!
• troy w
  If the origins of the letter were from 1925 then how did he so perfectly predict the second world war at least a decade ahead of time and before hitler was even close to power. More important how did he predict the current climate 75+ years ahead, where jews and their proxy are lining up for a major war with the Muslim world.
  Maybe it’s not “predicted”, but rather already knew there has been a plan in place and simply spoke of it out loud.
• ralphthelonewolfdupree
  The illuminati and its Agenturs Are creationists, they make things.. Like Abraham Lincoln and John F Kennedy, the assassinations were planned as a ritual 100 years before Kennedy was in power, and it all layed out as theyed planned it. This debunk blog lacks the understanding of the illuminati, you cannot think practical with them, you have to think how they think. If you were in some form of power backed by something evil (IE Lucifer) then you likely already have the future planned out from the get go. These World Wars had to happen, the first was to get rid of Czars and Make Russia a Atheis country, Second was to make the Jews (money hungry bastards) the “Chosen People of God” (and if you think about it, they are the hosen people of the Devil, the Luciferian god [which explains why money and fame or outstanding wealth is Key to their lifestyle) and then the third would be to Get rid of God and the non belief of god, This means they will make Lucifer the new god to believers both old, new, and atheistic. Likely because this “god” will give you what you’ve been chasing after your whole life, Fortune fame and power.
  “You said in your heart, ‘I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far reaches of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.’” Parts of Isaiah 14:12
  “But you are brought down to Sheol, to the far reaches of the pit.”
  He will fail
• http://usaishistory.com Eric Gonnason
  All I had to see was your own phrase “… the nuclear armed Zionists …” to know where you’re at. Sorry. Nice try.
• Sane Man
  Interesting read, however this article seems to be as easily pulled apart as the author pulls apart the ‘3 world wars’ letter.
  For example the following statement:
  “It should also be noted that the only “Illuminati” documented within decades of the time-frame of the letter was the “Bavarian Illuminati” which officially disbanded in 1785. Though conspiracy theories flourish to this day and the term is used in the abstract, serious accusations of the group’s secret continuation had died out at least 50 years before the letter was allegedly written.”
  This just simply is not true, and would appear to be reliant on the author expecting the name ‘illuminati’ to be present on all movements from which this group sprang from, also the histories of the orders themselves appear to be completely ignored by the author. Most occult groups and mystical societies went through periods of transformation, regardless of their edict, due to a variety of reasons, usually surrounding unwanted exposure or pressure, or amalgamations with other groups.
  For example The Illuminati of Spain, named the ‘Alumbrados’ (illuminated) founded in 1520 was disbanded and sent underground due to the Spanish inquisition, the movement then reappeared in France under the name ‘Illumines’ in the sixteen hundreds. It was a Christian Mystical order.
  The Rite of Swedenborg or ‘Illuminati of Stockholm’ founded in 1721 by Emmanuel Swedberg (later changed to Swedenborg), a man initiated into the higher degrees of the Templars as practiced in Sweden, and a confirmed Mason. The order was later established in London under the name ‘Theosophical Society of the New Jerusalem’ and traveled to the America’s. The rite of Swedenborg, known as ‘illuminati of Stockholm’ was well known until the middle of the 18th century until is was amalgamated into a Rite by Count Von Zinnendorf, and continued on after his death when absorbed by ‘Martinism’, which is still active today. (Interesting to note the order’s seal is the 6 pointed star in a circle)
  The Illuminati of Avingon founded in 1760, having close ties to the Swedenborg Rite, went through various periods of disbandment/revival until most of it’s members became affiliated to Martinism. Franz Mesmer the famous authority on what was to be known at the time as ‘mesmerism’ (and is where we get the word mesmerize from) was a member of the Illuminati of Avignon, and it is noted that before the order was finally disbanded, the degree of ‘Knight of the Sun’ became amalgamated into the 27th and 28th degree of Scottish Rite Freemasonry, which obviously exists today. (Something I believe Albert Pike was extremely familiar with)
  These are fairly crude examples of how these orders morph over the years, with their philosophies and Rite’s passed on, as for the ‘Illuminati of Bavaria’ (different to the ‘illuminati’ sects previously mentioned), long since touted by people as ‘disbanded’ or ‘inactive’ many years ago, well unfortunately there is a huge and well documented body of work explaining where this order ‘disbanded’, and without wanting to type an essay on the subject I can tell you that it was already absorbed into Grand Orient Freemasonry in France as early as 1786. This was due to Adam Weishaupt, credited founder of the Illuminati of Bavaria, being exiled from Bavaria after he successfully managed to gain control of certain Masonic lodges with the help of Freemason Baron Adolph Von Knigge. Von Knigge did later try to revive the movement in Bavaria under the name ‘The Tugenbund’ or Union of Virtue, again concealing itself in Freemasonry, but had again failed again in this region by 1833.
  Notably, Bavarian Illuminism influence is directly credited with creating a group called ‘The Jacobins’ which came from the lodges of Grand Orient Freemasonry in France, and are in turn credited with using their resources to create the French Revolution through a propaganda machine that “triumphed atheism and promoted social upheaval”. Without going in to names and dates which would take an age, some of the conspirators of aspects of the Revolution were suppressed in later years but it is claimed the remnants of the movement survived having successfully penetrated an English Literary group known as the ‘Fabians’ where it’s predatory principles were passed as socialism.
  The Fabian Society, still active today, was one of the founding groups of the Labour Party in the United Kingdom, one of the most dominant political parties at this time and throughout the 20th century.
  This has all been well documented in detail, and what I present is just a tiny portion, but it is important to note that these groups survived in one form or another, there is actually a great explanation of this concept in a work written by James Billington, the former librarian of U.S. Congress, called ‘Fire in the minds of men: the origins of the revolutionary faith’.
  Unfortunately peoples grasp of Occult Societies and Mystical Orders has become so degenerated, the ‘illuminati’ has now become synonymous with pop music videos, and news reader’s with digital artifacts in their eyes. Unless the word “ILLUMINATI” or a big eye in a pyramid comes up, people think there’s nothing there, despite the fact that the illimunati of bavaria has had a huge influence on the sociopolitical landscape for centuries and continues to do so to this day.
  So to my original point, saying that there was no reference to the illuminati in the time that Albert Pike supposedly wrote the letter, is unbelievably ignorant of the facts to the point that it casts doubt on everything else you say. In my opinion, the letter as it is presented today seems like a recreation, much like the protocols of the elders of zion. But I have little doubt that it’s sentiment is authentic having seen the works and letters of some of these groups and what their philosophies and goals are.
  • ton k pils
    Awesome reply and… a kick to the teeth of the ‘know f all’ debunk?? amateur clowns’ shit site. Very apt, EYES WIDESHUT INDEED… and head in the ground.
• Sane Man
  Also I just want to add to my previous comment, does it actually matter if Albert Pike wrote this letter or not, the fact is somebody wrote it, and it happened, and it is happening. I think people should focus on what we are going to do about it, because war may be some people’s answer for social upheaval and creating a ‘better’ world, but in the end humanity loses, except for an extremely privileged element. I think we need a new Bill of Rights that every human on the planet edheres to, which empowers people and their right to exist without imposing or subjugating others, or having others impose or subjugate themselves. What we have now is a form of organised and imposed barbaric chaos, held together in a pyramid scheme where energy in all it’s forms is extracted.
  • It’s almost over
    If our current Bill of Rights isn’t working what makes you think something else/new will? It’s not the people who are starting chaos it’s the people in charge. The Constitution is meant to keep the people in charge, in check! The whole system is corrupted..words on paper don’t seem to matter much these days.
• Oakenbear
  Fake or real? It does not matter, what you all fail to understand is that we are all living in WW3 now, its happening all around us.
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  • Rick Smith
    You forgot to mention the part about selling your soul to the devil!
    That’s the show-stopper for me.
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• Wally Wanks
  Using the term debunk means you are an idiot….
  Start again and this time YOU PROVE YOU HAVE. Clue….so tired of lame idiots withe “debunk websites” and dont have the brains to do real research.
  Googling all your crap is NOT RESEARCH YOU WONK!
  Just a quick note to start you…term nazi was use long before hitler used it….
  • Keelan Balderson
    What a Wally Wanker ^^^
    • mattster
      You’re an idiot. They plan wars, not predict. Who pays you? The illuminatti? If you don’t know they are real and that the masons are satanic, you are dumb as a rock. You turned whether the letter is authentic or not into whether masonry is evil and if the illuminatti is real. Unbelivable
• the one
  I guess you might as well say nostradamus didn’t predict the things that he did lol smh…
• Gerard Bianco
  He couldn’t predict the confederates would lose the Civil War, but we are to believe he made specific predictions regarding 3 World Wars?
  • Lou Diamond Haeick
    are we supposed to deny what is happening in front of our faces?
• Euro-BRICS
  Why don’t you explain the text attributed to Taxil (p270 of the National Magazine pdf file) was obviously written by J.M. Chapple, a pro-Mason, the editor of this pro-Masonic american journal ? Has Taxil ever said what Chapple has written ? How can you be sure ?
• James
  Did the people who planned the Russian Revolution have it planned 20 years prior to it happening? Yes of course they did. All wars are contrived by the power whores as you say. And so yes of course Pike could have known what was going to happen in Russia (communism). If anything, you only prove the letter to be accurate here.
• Smarterthanu
  Hagbard Celine says: Keep digging, kids.
• Mik
  See: “everything is a rich mans trick” and “secrets in plain sight” with these two very through vids connecting the dots , and A.pike does come up in them.
  pikes letter make too much sense, real or not 0_0
• Lou Diamond Haeick
  So which part of this ‘hoax’ isn’t unfolding? smh…
• Lou Diamond Haeick
  Remind’s me of the fool who says the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is a hoax, but can’t address the precise accuracy of its’ predictions unfolding. Guess what, who gives a fuck about your ‘Hoax’ opinion when we clearly see these words happening in front of our face. #NoCommonSense
  • Keelan Balderson
    What predictions? William Guy Carr wrote this stuff in the mid to late 50s, following both wars, and after the formation of Israel.
    Jews and Arabs hate each other …. yeah no shit.
  • mcwjimbo
    pfffft If all these supposed grand conspiracies are real then humanity wouldn’t be killing ourselves with all our industrial pollutants and dumping our shit {literally our toilet waste} into our oceans. If they are so smart then they would do something so they don’t inherit a dead world to rule over. LOL take a deep breath and understand that the incompetency, stupidity, and selfishness of men will always override/ end any supposed grand conspiracy.
    • mrsecret77
      The world is not dying you moron. All the stuff you mentioned isn’t affecting the world that drastically. Nature (ie, earthquakes, floods, tsunamis, etc.) does more damage to the earth on its own then humans ever could
      • mcwjimbo
        HA HA HA! Go drink the run off from a factory and let us see how it affects you
        • mrsecret77
          What a stupid argument you just put forward, So because something is poisonous to a human mean it’s poisonous to the entire earth? You must have been sick the day they taught logic.
        • mcwjimbo
          LOL please turn on the news, use google, look around you at the animal die offs, desertification, etc. Are you blind and retarded? Read up on the rivers where all life is dead. Read up on the mass extinctions that are occurring right at this moment. Look at the pictures of life in the red sea and see turtles with HUGE tumor growths. Read up on the acidification of the oceans that is causing shellfish to be unable to form proper shells etc.
        • mrsecret77
          And yet, the earth is still alive and we’re all still here.
        • mcwjimbo
          Do you understand simple English? I originally stated that if any of the conspiracies of some all powerful group controlling the earth i.e. “The illuminati” were real then humanity would not be killing ourselves. Who wants to rule a dead world.
          OCCAm’s razor = the simplest answer is the probable answer. Humanity is a mess but is evolving/ advancing. There are no grand conspiracies. The idea of some group controlling everything is just a fantasy
    • Paul
      if you read the georgia guidestones.. they’re telling you the world is overpopulated by about 6.5 billion people… our death and demise is part of the plan. this is a eugenics based, satanic death cult that we’re dealing with here.
      • mcwjimbo
        LOL I can raise stones and carve all manner of nonsense on them. Such means nothing as far as some nefarious world group.
• http://revelamini.tumblr.com/ Michael
  WELL, THE LETTER ISN’T A HOAX, and what is unfolding in the World is plenty of proof it’s real. This article is a sad attempt to dismiss it.
  • mcwjimbo
    LOL “I refuse to look through your devil telescope.” {< itself not a real quote but the essence/ symbolism of the statement stands} LOL…. logic, rationality, knowledge, and evidence are your friends. Don't be afraid of Enlightenment
• mcwjimbo
  Thanx for posting this information
• andy
  After reading this and looking at the comments, well I believe that the letter is real and just because you cant find the original source don’t back nothing up against it. Masons do revear Lucifer and Albert pike probably spoke or channelled a spirit guide. I find this more believable than it being a hoax but somehow being pretty spot on…it just don’t happen. How is it that people still don’t believe in a god an devil when we all accept there is good an evil, what do we say about the ancients, they were all on drugs and everything they built and did was just crazy shit that don’t mean nothing? I mean come on now
  • Carl Corey
    Why would you still believe the letter is real when the evidence proves otherwise? That’s the reason the term “conspiracy theorists” is still going strong, because foolish people keep propagating bad information to back up claims of a world conspiracy (which is an easily proven fact without using sensationally fake stories like the Pike and Mazzini letter).
    Instead of using a blatant lie why not use some concrete information like the statements Carrol Quigley made in his book “Tragedy and Hope”? Or the many statements made in the congressional record that proves plan for a one world government is totally true? I could give you dozens and dozens of factual statements that totally prove the case for a worldwide conspiracy.
    There’s no reason to use propaganda to strengthen our case.
• themaharajah
  The problem is that Pike and his masters invented all those terms communism, fascism, Zionism etc….so the timeline and usage of those words doesn’t matter. Marx’s work for instance was funded by bankers who were part of the same cabal as Pike.
  The New World Order/illuminati is an architecture of super-manipulation, in other words people who believe themselves to be part of or high up in the conspiracy are themselves being manipulated and/or set up. This includes(ed) the Marxists, fascists, Zionists etc. what it all comes back to is this secretive cabal who uses control of the monetary system(and through that everything) and large scale social and military conflict to change the world in their favour and towards a one world government. Just look at how they used the Marxists/communist to create a world that is easier to control with money/capital, even though that was supposedly the opposite of what Marxism set out to achieve. Religion, Family, Cultures, All forms of leadership aside from financial, nationalism and even the borders between countries. All has been destroyed. Money is now the reason for everything, all decisions and all control of resources. And puts these people firmly in the driver seat of civilization.
  • Paul
    glad someone out there is alive and breathing… thx
• B Alien
  some sects have been “corrupted.” Yeah..you put that quite mildly.
• Carl Corey
  Well said, the letter is bullshit.
• Darko
  Yes this is obviously a hoax. Nothing to worry about. It’s totally impossible that war between Israel and Muslims breaks out. Off course that in that case USA&EU wouldn’t be in conflict with Russia&China. And if they would it couldn’t lead to total destruction. Social cataclysm….bitch please…. it’s totally impossible that several million Muslims come to Europe right now. Or… ups… we are roasted.

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